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Old Dec 23, 2015, 05:30 PM
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Anyone see the new FAA rules setting new goals of say..

DLG AUW`s of .55 lbs or under? [255 grams]

It is quite doable IMO but airframes will be more subject to abuse with thin skins and the likes.

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Edit; corrected weight
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Old Dec 23, 2015, 05:57 PM
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A lot of DLGs already fall under the 255g limit (.55lbs)
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Old Dec 23, 2015, 06:08 PM
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I believe the actual limit is 250g.
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Old Dec 23, 2015, 06:21 PM
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Yep. Thought I had seen someone else post it @ 255
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Old Dec 23, 2015, 06:30 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem. My club (RMSA) has a guy who builds 100% of his own-design DLGs and he is coming in around 230 - 240 grams. They are very competitive too.
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Old Dec 23, 2015, 06:41 PM
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Until you put ballast in, then it becomes a dreaded drone!

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Old Dec 23, 2015, 07:20 PM
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So my Blaster 3 ST is no longer legal?
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Old Dec 23, 2015, 07:27 PM
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So my Blaster 3 ST is no longer legal?
Your good Bud. In Canada we haven't been restricted [yet]

Kevin made my point though.
Once ballasted many DLG`s will now require registration in the USA. [many , many home builts as well]

The 255 grams [or whatever the proper number is] is about the average weight of today`s moldies before ballast [ IIRC]
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Old Dec 23, 2015, 07:38 PM
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IIRC the rule says something like "vehicle capable of sustained flight," meaning gliders are off the hook. Either way, I don't think this silly rule will survive a court appeal. It will be challenged, and I believe it will lose.
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Old Dec 23, 2015, 07:46 PM
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Old Dec 24, 2015, 10:02 AM
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Unfortunately perceptions often take precedent. So, in the unlikely event an FAA inspector comes sniffing around your flying field, they will see planes flying and start asking about registrations. Now, if your the confrontational type, you can pull out your trusty scale (better yet, ask him to produce one), and go back and forth with them. Personally, my time is more important and I’ll just play the game.

Realistically, I can’t imagine the FAA wasting their time with RC model inspections. The registration will be enforced when someone is either involved in an accident or is suspected of improper use of a drone. Nevertheless, our AMA membership should be sufficient.
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Bud,

Only US citizens can register, dunno whether you could even fly legally, if this silly rule holds up.
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Bud,

Only US citizens can register, dunno whether you could even fly legally, if this silly rule holds up.
This may be helpful.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=30

I'm hoping the current registration thing changes to be more positive for AMA members or goes away completely.

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Unfortunately perceptions often take precedent. So, in the unlikely event an FAA inspector comes sniffing around your flying field, they will see planes flying and start asking about registrations. Now, if your the confrontational type, you can pull out your trusty scale (better yet, ask him to produce one), and go back and forth with them. Personally, my time is more important and I’ll just play the game.

Realistically, I can’t imagine the FAA wasting their time with RC model inspections. The registration will be enforced when someone is either involved in an accident or is suspected of improper use of a drone. Nevertheless, our AMA membership should be sufficient.
As it sits right now the FAA has handed off enforcement to local law enforcement. Boss Hogg so to speak
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I don't get it? If safety is at the center of this, shouldn't all birds heavier than 250 grams register too? A lot of birds operate/live within 5 miles of an airport and do not abide by the altitude restriction. Remember the "miracle on the Hudson". This smells more about liability than safety, I have yet to hear of one serious aircraft damage incident caused by a UAS. Does this mean that the radio manufacturers can be liable when control is lost if there is an incident? Or is the operator always guilty regardless of the facts. The liability aspects of this ruling are huge....with or without AMA membership. All this means is everything gets a lot more expensive so the lawyers can get paid....that certainly takes the "fun" out of model aviation. Any model over 250grams immediately becomes a huge potential liability and puts your net worth on the line when you fly....not fun-y. I'm guessing this ruling just made all DLGs over 250 grams obsolete.
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