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Old Sep 16, 2012, 03:45 PM
Graham W
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What follow on from a trainer?

Hello All,
I have just passed my BMFA A certificate which I took with a 60" high wing trainer weighing 6Lb with an SC46 engine.
I am wondering what plane to get next. I've looked at the Black Horse Angel (midwinger) and the Seagull PC9 60". I want a plane that will handle wind well, not be prone to bad tip stalling and preferably a built up ARTF.

What would you recommend? Thanks guys.
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Old Sep 16, 2012, 03:51 PM
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IMO everybody should have a Super Sportster in their line up. With a larger diameter, low pitch prop (like an 11x5) and mild control deflections, it's a stable, docile flyer... with a smaller diameter, higher pitch prop (10x7) and moderate to large control deflections it can tear up the sky with the best of them.

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Old Sep 17, 2012, 04:03 AM
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Well I guess you're in the UK so you're more or less obliged to have a WOT 4 some time and this would be a reasonable time to start .

Or if you want something a bit prettier there's always the new Acrowot ARTF.

Both meet your requirements though the WOT 4 is a bit easier to fly.

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Old Sep 17, 2012, 08:54 AM
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An Escapade 40 or 60 size. Very much like the Super Sportster but built a bit stronger.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 01:04 PM
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While I am not familiar with requirements in the UK, I'd like to recommend the Venus. Though it's a pattern plane, it flies like it's on rails. It was the third plane I had, being afraid of something so "sporty". I was shocked at how stable and smooth it was. On low rates it's very tame.

The only caveat is that it goes where you point it. There is no self-correction. That being said, it makes for some of the softest and easiest landings I've ever had, assuming you are ok with tail-draggers.
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 01:42 PM
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Everyone needs a " Stick ". Even in the UK . ENJOY !!! RED
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 08:21 PM
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Four Star if you can find one. Super slow landings, and gives plenty of stall warning, yet can axial roll, square corner loops, inverted flight, Really a nice plane to fly. I have a 120 but am itching to get a 40 to put my Magnum 52 on.
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Old Sep 18, 2012, 04:26 PM
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I realy like my escapade 40
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Old Sep 18, 2012, 06:42 PM
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+1 on a stik. I would stay away from the pc9. I have one and they are definitely not a good second plane. They land pretty hot and tip stall quickly.
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Old Sep 18, 2012, 11:46 PM
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Escapade, Super Sportster or stick, I like all three but I like them in a 60 size. A 4* tends to put young pilots to sleep pretty quick as they advance. I do use the 4* 60 to teach building and I have to clip the wing and add a bigger engine to keep younger pilots awake. Something harder to do to an ARF. I used the Super Sportster before the 4* to teach building but the 4* is just an easier kit to build. I'm now going back to the SS 60 kit to teach with again. Pick the plane that you like the best though. Like a 4* but a bit better flyer is the Pulse from Horizon Hobby. Look around for one you really like though, don'tlet others pick your planes.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 11:28 AM
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Thanks a lot for the replies guys. Plenty to think about there.
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