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Old Jan 26, 2013, 04:54 AM
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It isn't one of the Sterling PT-17 plans that are up on HPA?
Nope. It's the 64.5 in wingspan Sterling Stearman PT-17 from here : http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=3704 The big one. The one Edubarca found.

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Old Jan 26, 2013, 05:50 AM
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Ahhh... I see: You already had the construction plan but the new file has the parts...
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 07:08 AM
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Has anyone ever built the Kestrel by Dave Robelen ?......she's a 73" glider.

If so, do you have any tips, tricks, or traps regarding construction. I couldn't find any building instructions anywhere. Does anyone know if they exist ?

The plans are terrific, but without some verbage, I'd be wandering around behind the little animals so to speak.

Thanks,

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Old Jan 26, 2013, 07:18 AM
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I should have mentioned that she was in MAN, Sept 1968, which I don't have
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 07:38 AM
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M m m must have print wood....
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 08:38 AM
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Thanks for posting the construction article. Much obliged.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 08:44 AM
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how to fix ziggy lines

i have read every thing nobody talk about how to fix ziggy line in plans when you resize them here is a sample im trying to fix thanks for any help
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 08:54 AM
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+1 1967250s CAD drawings seem sterile in comparison.
CAD is cold, sterile, and has no human feelings or warmth, I still prefer hand drawings. I just dislike CADS drawings. They are good for architect or engineering plans but not for model airplanes.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 09:32 AM
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I took the time this morning to OCR Sundancer's post. This should be easier to read.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 09:41 AM
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CAD is cold, sterile, and has no human feelings or warmth, I still prefer hand drawings. I just dislike CADS drawings. They are good for architect or engineering plans but not for model airplanes.
I agree but the laser doesn't like hand drawings. So they can serve a purpose even in model airplanes.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 10:25 AM
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i have read every thing nobody talk about how to fix ziggy line in plans when you resize them here is a sample im trying to fix thanks for any help
I believe those are pixels my friend, which indicates a super low res scan. Need more data, which means a higher resolution scan.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 11:15 AM
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i have read every thing nobody talk about how to fix ziggy line in plans when you resize them here is a sample im trying to fix thanks for any help
If your scanning use a higher resolution at the bare minimum 300 dpi with 400 to 600dpi for best results. Anything more you're just adding information to the file you don't need. Don't scan in color instead scan in gray scale then import into Photo Shop ( or GUMP ) and adjust your contrast and brightness. Straighten the image and then posterize. Using your paint brush clean up what ever needs to be cleaned in the image. Finally, enlarge to your desired scale and convert to Black and White. ( Not necessarily in that order )

That's about it in a nutshell. There are several tutorials on how to do it in this thread and also on theouterzone. It take practice to get a good drawing from a scan and depending on the drawing it can take anywhere from several minutes to several days to clean to a useful design.

Don't expect your results to look like PlaneMan's the first several tries as it again takes practice through trial and error on your settings and how you manipulate the scans.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 11:43 AM
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CAD is cold, sterile, and has no human feelings or warmth, I still prefer hand drawings. I just dislike CADS drawings. They are good for architect or engineering plans but not for model airplanes.
Kinda depends on how you look and intrepid the drawing. After scanning all those magazine plans several months ago, while cleaning the scan you could see where the person that drew the original for the magazine had "tapped" there pencil or smudged a line. After removing the "junk" these drawings POPPED. Same thing happens in CAD with a sterile background resulting in less interference to the eyes resulting (IMHO) a more accurate model.

The other big plus, I have over 4000 designs and if they were all hard copy I would literally be tossed to the street by my wife, no place to store that much paper. 4000 drawings is just a tic on my 4gig net drive and if I need a hard copy my Calcamp takes about fifteen minutes for the largest I've ever plotted.

CAD is also ideal for laser cutting as cutting by hand is almost out of the formula anymore. Nothing like having laser cut leading and trailing edges cut for that elliptical wing or spars cut that just drop in to align the ribs where hand cut would just not cut the mustard.

So, all in all, both have there place in design as I wouldn't want to go to a work site and not be able to see all the drawings laid out on a on a table for reference, however I like to be able to turn on and off layers to get a better picture of the entire project.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 12:22 PM
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I should have mentioned that she was in MAN, Sept 1968, which I don't have
Here is a copy of the construction article from the September 1968 issue of M.A.N.

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Old Jan 26, 2013, 02:54 PM
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Here is a copy of the construction article from the September 1968 issue of M.A.N.

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Thank you so much
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