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Old Sep 26, 2012, 09:08 AM
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Freewing provides their own servos.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 11:54 AM
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Freewing provides their own servos.
Servos or I think you ment retracts.
However, FW commissioned PZ to make them per a local vendor where they are made. Thus most all molded components are interchangeable. I am puzzlement why FW had them actually change the circuitry.... I guess to give the illusion of being different to justify such a price difference.

The gear (the motor gear ratio, worm gear stock and thread, transition block) and circuit board different. They also set them to different usec transition points.

Still when I get a chance I'll switch the PZ and FW polarities around and see if the cutout changes along with direction. Likely not that simple I suspect as nothing really ever is. And if not simple I'm curious why other proprietary interests.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 01:03 PM
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Actully meant both. Thanks for that info.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 12:05 PM
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sorry for the delay, outside view of one of my su35 flights.

My 10 year old recorded the video.

SU-35 Perfect landing (5 min 14 sec)
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 06:34 PM
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 06:37 PM
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What's your set up? Is it stock? It really gains altitude quickly.

I like the way you can see the vector nozzles at work in your other video. Notice the swirl pattern of the runway dust at 59 seconds.

su35 rear view flight 1 (4 min 55 sec)
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 10:03 PM
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Wow. That is a-m-a-z-i-n-g. Awesome work.
Thanx , But alot of work still remains. I took it for a taxi test and it didn't fare so well. The good news is ive learnt something form the experiance and I will apply it to the upgrade. so stay tuned
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 10:07 PM
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sorry for the delay, outside view of one of my su35 flights.

My 10 year old recorded the video.

http://youtu.be/UY0T1QAd6Ww

Wow with all that traffic your airport needs a tower The hawk behind you couldn't even wait for your vortecs to disapate. I know mid-airs happen alot ha?
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 06:25 AM
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This is the aftermath of my silly crash. It's already water-boiled in these pictures, let's see what I can make out of this mess.

Cheers!
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 09:15 AM
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Ouch!!! Repairable but how come the foam is popcorning so much all around the nose section. Was it left out in the heat or something? Are you gonna have time to repair it between classes?
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 10:30 AM
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Max,

I think the popcorn-Ing is from J putting it in boiling water. He mentioned that the photos were post boiled foam.
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 10:32 AM
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Yup that's repairable I've got exp., not bragging...lmao! Some epoxy, light spackle, foam (to fill gaps), paint her, and youll be good to go.
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 11:47 AM
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It's funny how many of these planes i see with the same damage, probably on a minor crash, most of them. the damage above looks just like my plane did when i hit a gopher hole, on landing. I was almost stopped when it hit the hole and it sent the plane for a spin that did not seem like it would do any damage but, wack, the nose broke off. you would think that Freewing would look at this and make the nose a little stronger. I bet you could flick it with your finger and break the nose off
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 12:18 PM
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No, you couldn't. In fact I did a very hard Straight-to-the-ground vertical impact at a decent speed so it's pretty incredible there's so little damage. I'm very surprised the plane held on so well, I would expect a complete confetti output from any other type of plane but in this, everything important is safe and sound, only broke non-essential parts (The nose) I'm sorry, I don't have video of the crash this time, my father saw it coming and lost all focus on keeping the image... DAMN! it would have been so sweet and spectacular in slow motion! At least I would have that...

Repair is already on the way, see for yourselfs:







I had a bad time trying to straighten the nose up. A lot of foam is pop-corned because it was difficult to restore the original form just with boiling water though it helped. Now I need to put back the rest of tiny bits I gathered and set new hinges for the gear doors.

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Old Sep 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
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V8 I thought that was a Spanish thing lost in translation when he mentioned boiling water. Why boil it? till it popcorns. OK you were posting at the same time I was.... and that explains the water bording... boiling of your SU. Wow a nose in dive and it came out looking that good J!

Anyways. Yes fixable. Curious what techniques you guys use for repairs.
I keep junk foam, put it in a blender till its little fiddly bits and then mix it with spackle and WBPU. Seem cracks foam bits, spackle and Epoxy. If it needs hardening I add in glass fillings, basically glass dust strands.
I find it sands better and doesn't popcorn because the foam pellet is already broken down.

JTAnimal, agreed it could be designed a little more durable but this would add foam weight because its not just the break point that has to be addressed. If they originally added T foam runners on the inner walls of the nose section it would be less easy to snap the nose but you would see more age lines show up at the front and back of the hatch. And a remold isn't something they're are going to do in a hurry if the problem is crashes. Molds are expensive and after all these are not made with a 5mph bumper rating or something. The only part on a plane or model that is supposed to hit anything is the wheels.

Go measure your gopher hole and work out a scale mock up of having said gopher hole in the middle of any full scale run way. It would do more than just rip bits off the planes nose.

They may redo a mold once they've sold enough units to justify it, but such a remold will add weight. It may be better for them to produce a reduced priced foam fuse only allowing crashers to more affordably replace the fuse since its consistently the point of fail. After all its just cheap foam and is very easy to swap out the parts.
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