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Old Dec 30, 2008, 12:53 PM
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Cherokee II construction and completed model photos

Folks,

Just completed my Cherokee II, designed by David Smith. For anyone interested in photos of the construction and finished bird, go to http://picasaweb.google.com/lakralc

Al Clark
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Old Dec 30, 2008, 02:05 PM
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Very nice work, Al.

Two questions:
1. Did you build your Cherokee from the Dave Smith plans? I am planning to build mine from Dave's plans.
2. Is that MonoKote?

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Old Dec 30, 2008, 03:19 PM
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FatCity,

Yes, I used the Dave Smith plans and the TMRC short kit. The kit had the ribs and some formers cut, but it's not really much more work to go straight from the plans. If I had to do it over, I'd just go straight off the plans. The plans are good, but they are for experienced builders and don't show some details. For example, the ribs are not shown for the fin and rudder, so I drew my own to use as templates. I haven't test flown mine yet, but expect it to fly well. It came out very light at 6.5 lbs, which gives an 11.7 oz/sq ft wing loading - very low for 1/4 scale.

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Old Dec 30, 2008, 03:29 PM
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FatCity,

Sorry, forgot to answer your question on the covering. I used Ultracote. Their cream color is a very close match to the Polytone dope Daytona White color used on Tony Condon's Cherokee II that I modeled mine after. Originally I was going to use Supershrink Coverite fabric and paint, but when I looked up the price of the Polytone paint, I changed my mind! Also, painting a large model without a paint booth is a hard to do. My experience here is that the bugs really love the white colors and it's darn near impossible to get a coat sprayed on without getting bugs in it when you paint outdoors. So, I went the film covering route. I prefer Ultracote these days because it doesn't seem to wrinkle over time like Monokote does.

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Old Dec 30, 2008, 04:48 PM
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Absolutely gorgeous HotdogX
Rumor is I may get to tow it, at least until he finishes his BTE Flying King towplane that's on the bench now.
Hotdog X is the author of a recent (among others) article in Model Aviation about one of his electric twin designs, "Two Small" I think it is. Looks like he'll be the first aerotow candidate in NA for my "Drag Queen". Hey, Hotdog, how about a 33% KA-6 for your next project?
Way to go and best of luck with her.
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Old Dec 30, 2008, 05:18 PM
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Thanks, Asher, for the kind words! Yes, indeed, you will be the first to tow her. That Drag Queen might tear the wings off the 6.5 lb Cherokee II!

33% KA-6, eh? That's awfully big for my car. I do have a soft spot for the KA-6, as it is one of the full scale gliders I used to fly in the late 1970's. We'll see...

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Old Dec 30, 2008, 07:10 PM
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FatCity,

...the ribs are not shown for the fin and rudder, so I drew my own to use as templates.

Al
Al,

I received an email from David Smith and he seems conscientious about the plans being complete and accurate. I wonder if he is aware of the fin and rudder airfoil not being included.

Also, should I draw the fin and rudder ribs freehand, as I assume you did?

-Tom Finelli
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Old Dec 30, 2008, 07:35 PM
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Tom,

I drew my fin and rudder ribs with AutoCAD. I can send you a PDF file of them if you PM me your e-mail address.

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Old Dec 30, 2008, 07:46 PM
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Cherokee II Fin and Rudder Ribs

Tom,

I decided to convert my AutoCAD to a PDF file and attach it here for you, and any other folks that might want to use it. This is what I used to make my ribs. You might be able to come up with something better, but you're welcome to use this if you like.

Al
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Old Dec 30, 2008, 08:14 PM
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Thanks Al, I saved the file!

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Old Dec 30, 2008, 08:16 PM
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You're welcome. Glad to help out.

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Old Dec 31, 2008, 02:33 AM
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Al,

amazing job! Ive shared the pictures of your model with many of my full scale soaring friends. Very nice work, and as I emailed you, cant wait to see it fly! We ought to get the full scale and model glider together sometime.
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Old Dec 31, 2008, 11:42 AM
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Thanks, Tony! Yes, that would be cool to have the model and full scale in the same photo!

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Old Dec 31, 2008, 02:06 PM
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Hi Al,
Was your Sopwith Pup from a kit?
Nice models - all of them!
Thanks,
Ray
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Old Jan 01, 2009, 01:14 PM
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Al,
Great job on the Cherokee!
Always nice to see another one. I sure would like to build a bigger one someday, just need to spend some time with my cad program to enlarge it. Heres a picture of mine completed from the TMRC short kit.

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