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Kyosho SEAWIND Carbon Edition Readyset

An update to the iconic Seawind

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Ready to run with a carbon fiber hull

The Kyosho Seawind has made a return in a ready-to-run state. The ABS hull version was announced early last year and now Kyosho has introduced a new carbon fiber hull in Readyset. The Kyosho SEAWIND Carbon Edition Readyset comes with a 2.4GHz PERFEX KT-21 radio, waterproof high torque KS501SW sail servo with metal gears and a KS202W rudder servo, and detachable mast, keel, and rudder.

The pricing for the Seawind Carbon Edition is around $550.

Specs:

  • Length: 998mm
  • Width: 226mm
  • Height: 1,850mm
  • Weight: 3,000g(approx.)
  • R/C System: 2.4GHz PERFEX KT-21
  • Sail Area: 39dm2

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Old Jan 16, 2015, 11:22 AM
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Looks like I have to save my money, I really like this boat.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 12:33 PM
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This news comes as a surprise to me. Kyosho discontinued them many years ago, it was thought due to lack of sales. Perhaps they are doing so well with the re-release of the ABS versions, they thought it was time to bring back the high dollar version?

My first Seawind was a CF Edition which was indeed a very pretty boat. There were a few minor flaws in the hull but overall it was fine. Over the past few years I 've had two of the ABS versions. I was not able to determine any performance differences between the CF version and the ABS version. I opted to sell the CF boat because I could not justify the difference in price over the ABS versions.

Posted a few pictures of my CF Seawind for comparison. In the photos the hull appears to be black but my hull was actually translucent Carbon Fiber, which was really pretty cool looking. If you held the hull up to the light you could see differences in the thickness of the hull. Not sure if that was normal to these or mine was unique in that regard.

The wall thickness of the hull struck me as very thin and flexible. Was always afraid it would crack. It didn't but it seemed like it wasn't as durable as some of my other boats.

In years past I've seen CF editions listed on E-bay for almost a grand! I thought that was nuts! I guess $550 is about where these sold for when the first came out so perhaps the price is not unrealistic. I enjoyed having it but as I said I just couldn't justify the price difference at the time. Nice to see them back again for those who enjoy such things.

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Old Jan 16, 2015, 01:52 PM
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slicker than goose poop!
That is nice!
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 01:57 PM
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My friend who lives on a lake has the earlier version of the Seawind and it is a great sailing boat. Glad to see it lives on as I heard the factory where they were built was damaged a few years back. (No separate verification of that by me.) Mike H
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 03:38 PM
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The offiicial Seawind Class Owners Association discussion site is hosted here.......

http://www.rcsailing.net/forum1/foru...82-Seawind-COA
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 05:32 PM
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I thought the previous version of the carbon Seawind was a pretty boat. However it was plagued with production flaws and whatever performance advantage might have been gleaned from the weight savings with carbon was and is negated by the class minimum weight rule. All class legal boats have to weigh at least 6.5 lbs regardless of whether they are ABS or carbon.

The old version's carbon hull was pretty flimsy too--you could flex it slightly by squeezing it slightly on the side. A far cry from what one would expect from a carbon hull on say an M class or Us1M boat.
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Old Jan 16, 2015, 11:47 PM
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If looks could get first place this yacht has a gold medal. I do not know about how good a yacht it is but certainly it looks the part. It makes me wish I lived near a lake. I sailed 14' skiffs when I was younger and often yearn the smell of salt water in my nostrils and spray in my face.
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Old Jan 31, 2015, 10:10 AM
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I've been interested in getting a sailboat on and off, this one really stands out! It sure would make a great looking display model as well, like the lack of overall white, just a clean design. Here I go talking myself into yet another rc hobby...
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Old Jan 31, 2015, 12:25 PM
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Just a few thoughts for those considering the purchase of the latest Carbon Fiber edition.
If folks are buying a new CF edition based on it's looks and are not concerned with not getting any enhanced performance, that is certainly their option.

I would recommend seeing one in person before shelling out the money. If you look at the pictures of my CF Seawind I believe it's appearance is more true to the color deck you'll get on the latest version. I have not see the newest version in person yet, but promotional pictures of the earlier CF Seawinds showed it looked pretty much like the new version does. The deck color is significantly lighter blue than it appears in the ads and hull is not black. It is more like Charcoal gray and translucent - I like the appearance so I am not complaining, just suggesting if your paying for the looks it would be wisdom to see one in person before ordering. I posted a couple of the old Kyosho promo photos that show the darker blue decks and black hulls - just for the sake of the conversation.

If you are buying one thinking it will be faster than the ABS versions, history suggests that will not be the case. Not trying to be a buzz killer here, just suggesting seeing one before buying to make sure it is all that you are hoping for.
There is quite a price difference there!

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Old Jan 31, 2015, 10:09 PM
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I would have to agree that any performance advantage has not been noticed in any of the races in which I have competed against the carbon edition, but they do look really nice.
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Old Feb 01, 2015, 11:06 AM
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Boomer1, thanks for the insights, always good to know "the rest of the story". I'm just a lone RC'er, no clubs or events so performance isn't really an issue. It is good to know that what you get does not (or at least didn't with the last release) necessarily match the advertising. The ABS Seawind or Aquacraft Vela are probably more within my price range, but they sure aren't as appealing to the eye.
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Boomer1, thanks for the insights, always good to know "the rest of the story". I'm just a lone RC'er, no clubs or events so performance isn't really an issue. It is good to know that what you get does not (or at least didn't with the last release) necessarily match the advertising. The ABS Seawind or Aquacraft Vela are probably more within my price range, but they sure aren't as appealing to the eye.
I suggest the Seawind over the Vela. There is a very comprehensive thread here on the forum on the Vela. Had both, still have the Seawind. The Vela is a very attractive boat, no doubt and if you watch the sales at Tower Hobbies you can get one for a pretty attractive price. I returned the one I got due in part to manufacturing defects on the boat I received.

Suggest reading the Vela thread as it contains the high and low points of the Vela objectively as well as how to fix the known issues the boat has. Information is key to making a good decision.

Here is a link to the Vela thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...t=vela&page=73

I posted a few pictures that show some nifty looking Seawinds to show you if you are in to doing a little custom paint work you can end up with something unique and personalized.

I have not had an RTR Seawind, mine have all been kit versions. I would have no problem getting one of the new RTR versions.

Another little thing to think about - the Vela is a very narrow boat which makes working on them a bid challenging when doing anything inside the boat. The Seawind is narrow too, but does has more room inside and decent access. The factory hatch on a Vela is a better set up than the factory Seawind hatch, but fixing the Seawind hatch is easy.

Might look for a resale or consider a Seawind kit. There are still some around and show up on the forum from time to time. Kits are fun and you learn a lot while putting them together. Food for thought.

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Old Feb 01, 2015, 01:18 PM
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Is the new CF version made from epoxy or polyester resin?

If it is epoxy, then it would be more susceptible to heat deformation in a hot car trunk than the ABS version. It is never a good idea to leave any boat in a hot car, but even less so for epoxy hulls unless post cured at higher temps.

Just a thought for those in hot climates.
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Old Feb 01, 2015, 02:52 PM
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Good question. I don't know the answer. Polyester is less expensive than epoxy and according to what I have read, I think the better choice would be epoxy . Check out this link:http://www.oppracing.com/pages/carbon_fiber_101/

This is a good question to ask Kyosho. I can call them Monday to see if anyone knows at their California office might know.
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Nice article at this link: http://www.rcsailing.net/forum1/show...olyester-resin
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