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Old Oct 30, 2005, 12:52 AM
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Hana RTF, 4 ch Trainer...???

http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/pro...?prod=HBS54001

Does anyone know anything about this?
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Old Oct 30, 2005, 12:57 AM
Checking CG is for NERDS!
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http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/Hana.html

More info...barely

It looks very nice but seems to come with an obsolete battery and toy-looking Tx...

They also offer a very low-res looking RTF Zero
http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/zero.html
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Old Oct 30, 2005, 01:03 AM
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http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/pro...?prod=HBS54001

Does anyone know anything about this?
It's a great looking aircraft. They would probably sell a lot of them if they just had sense enough to put the dimensions ( wingspan, etc.) in inches instead of millimeters. I die laughing at their stupidity every time I see one of their ads. I probably would have bought one myself. Don't they realize the ads are being seen in the American market?!?
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Old Oct 30, 2005, 06:53 AM
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Hi Smokescreen38, I have one and I flew it last spring a couple times. With the narrow wing you need to keep the speed up when turning or it will tip stall in a hurry! Another thing, it is tough, stalled it at about 10' and nosed it in but it was undamaged except for the foam liner inside where the battery pack sets.
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Old Oct 30, 2005, 07:09 AM
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I don't know anything about this particular plane, so I will make general comments.

I don't recommend pretty planes as first planes for serlf trainers. They are too easy to break, too hard to fix and look bad in short order. So you won't see any especially pretty or true scale planes. Make one of those your second or third plane.

I also don't recommend two channel R/T electrics, so you won't find any on the list. If you want one of these, I would suggest the Firebird series from HobbyZone. They can be very easy to fly and can be a lot of fun, but they can also be very easy to lose. You should plan to fly them in dead calm air when you are first starting.

I feel a high wing three channel R/E/T plane is your best choice for a first
plane. R/E/T will require a little more learning than the two channel R/E
planes but is a better choice as a first plane, in my opinion. These use the
same control inputs as more advanced planes and can be flown in more wind once
you have mastered them in calm conditions.

Below I list 4 RTF electric planes I recommend for beginners.


READY TO FLY STARTER PLANES - Electric Parkflyers
No building - they practically fly right out of the box
These also glide well so you can thermal soar
with them under the right conditions.


Slow-V from Parkzone - $140 - Space CL2/3
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze. This is the best choice for people
who only have a small space to fly or who have an indoor place to fly, such as
a gym or
similar space.
http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/pro...p?prod=PKZ1300
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_20...tm.htm#2089493
Review
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=426
Video
http://users.cwnet.com/dhsc19/Slo_V_Aerobatics.wmv
Night fly module on a Slo-V
http://rc-galaxy.com/messageboard/mb...ViewMsg&num=-8


T-Hawk - RTF - Excellent Value - $170 - space CL1
Comes with extra wing, tail and battery
Flies well and stands up to hard landings
Can be flown on 27 MHz or 72 MHz
http://www.toytx.com/thawk3chrtf.html
T-Hawk - Without Radio - add your radio and receiver
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/wittran.html
T-Hawk Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ighlight=THawk
Videos
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/thawkvideos.html


Easy Star - RTF - $180 - Space CL1
Believe this goes easily back in the box to keep in the car
Super tough foam. Comes with 72 MHz radio in the US.
Good parkflyer and a good glider
Radio in RTF package can be used to fly other planes
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240025.asp
Easy Star - ARF - Add you own radio gear
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240009.asp
Amazing information site for easy star
http://www.mpx-easystar.de/
Videos
http://plawner.org/video/easygo.wmv
http://plawner.org/video/easystar.wmv
Mods, upgrades and more
http://www.mpx-easystar.de/
Adding ailerons
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...8&goto=newpost


Aerobird Challenger - RTF Electric - $150 - Space CL1
Great keep in the car plane - take off the wing and it goes back in the box!
I started on an Aerobird RTF. I have over 350 flights on my Aerobirds. I
also thermal
and slope soar this plane. Flies well and stands up to hard landings. Their
add on fun accessories for night flying, air to air combat and drop module add
to the fun!
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=HBZ3500
Review
http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Disco...ID=1289#Page01
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147621
Video
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/aerobird_video.html
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Old Oct 30, 2005, 07:12 AM
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If you are looking at the Hanna because you are an experienced 3 channel pilot, then it might be a good fit for you as a next plane. Here are some others.

FOUR CHANNEL AILERON TRAINERS
These planes introduce the full set of flight controls consisting of
ailerons/elevator/rudder/throttle. They are a logical next step for the
pilot who wants to take their flying skills to full 4 channel control. All of
these planes can perform aerobatics, but are primarily designed as 4 channel
trainers with high wing designs . This makes them easier to fly but less
aerobatic than the mid or low wing planes. RTF, ARF & Kits

Magpie - with both wing kits - $55
Easy to build Foam kit -
Has trainer wing AND and aileron sport wing
Master the first, then advance to the second.
They offer a complete package with both wings and all the electroncis for $160
http://www.mountainmodels.com/magpie.php
discussion threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...51#post3502851
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=SmoothE+build
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...51#post3502851
Video - slow fly wing
http://www.mountainmodels.com/Magpie.wmv
Sport wing
http://www.mountainmodels.com/MagpieSP.wmv

SmoothE - $50
Easy to build Balsa and foam
4 channel aileron trainer
http://www.mountainmodels.com/smoothe.php
Discussion Threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=SmoothE+build
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...&page=19&pp=15
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276761
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Funny video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/SmoothEsmall.WMV

Models Dandy Sport - $45
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandysport.php
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Complete Package $155
Video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/ds1.wmv

GWS E-starter 400 - Simple Foam Kit - $50
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=551
Available as a ARF complete package kit with radio - $150
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=611

GWS Tiger Moth 400 - Simple Foam Kit - $70
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=203
Complete kit including Radio - $175
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=658
Review
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=345
Video
http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazi...345/TM400m.wmv

Multiplex Magister ARF - $110
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXGZV2&P=ML
Multiplex Magister - RTF - $299
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXGZV3&P=ML
This plane is much larger than the others
Close to a .40 glow trainer in size
Review
http://www.smoothair.ca/reviews/Magister/magister.htm
Review
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=519
Discussion
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309397
Video - Standard Electric Motor & battery
http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazi.../magister2.wmv
Video - Take off rom grass - standard motor/battery
http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazi.../magister1.wmv
Towing up a glider
http://plawner.org/video/Magister_easy.wmv
Video - This is not with the standard motor
this plane has an upgraded brushless motor
http://plawner.net/video/magister_funday.wmv

BeginAir - RTF or Receiver ready
RTF - $180 Receiver Ready - $110
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/begin-air.html
Review
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=443
video
http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazi...3/BeginAir.wmv

Cesna 182 - 4 Channel RTF - $180
http://www.ewebcart.com/cgi-bin/cart...=1&item_id=144
Includes 72 mhz radio and wall charger.
Sku# 4303 $179.99 4 Channel with 72 Mhz Radio
(Intermediate Level Recommended)
Video
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/cessna_long_movie.html
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Old Nov 04, 2005, 03:28 AM
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It's a great looking aircraft. They would probably sell a lot of them if they just had sense enough to put the dimensions ( wingspan, etc.) in inches instead of millimeters. I die laughing at their stupidity every time I see one of their ads. I probably would have bought one myself. Don't they realize the ads are being seen in the American market?!?
I'm sorry stan but I couldn't help laughing at this statement.

I would simply have to reply, "When is the US going to drag itself out of the stone age and start using the metric system like EVERY OTHER COUNTRY in the world does".
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Old Nov 04, 2005, 03:37 AM
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I'm sorry stan but I couldn't help laughing at this statement.

I would simply have to reply, "When is the US going to drag itself out of the stone age and start using the metric system like EVERY OTHER COUNTRY in the world does".

Laugh all you want...... I am not sure where you are from .... We like our system and I guess you would have to call Microsoft backwards .... or all the other US companies leading the world market.... get a life
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Old Nov 04, 2005, 09:14 AM
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I'm sorry stan but I couldn't help laughing at this statement.

I would simply have to reply, "When is the US going to drag itself out of the stone age and start using the metric system like EVERY OTHER COUNTRY in the world does".
Yeah... I have to agree.

The Metric system is so much easier and even if you dont want to incorporate Metric measurments into your understanding, conversions take no time at all.
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Old Nov 04, 2005, 09:31 AM
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Yeah... I have to agree.

The Metric system is so much easier and even if you dont want to incorporate Metric measurments into your understanding, conversions take no time at all.
The metric system is easier for those that use it daily. We Americans find comfort in our "inches and feet" and I don't think that will ever change.

Stantheman has a valid point, if you want to sell airplanes to Americans you should at least take the time to add our units of measure to your stats. If you don't care about the American market then feel free to use metric only.

Of course I can do the conversion myself but why should I have to, I'm the customer. I do believe America represents a large enough market for them to print the US units of measure on their products along with those silly metric thingies

-Ralph-
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Old Nov 04, 2005, 01:39 PM
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The metric system is easier for those that use it daily. We Americans find comfort in our "inches and feet" and I don't think that will ever change.

Stantheman has a valid point, if you want to sell airplanes to Americans you should at least take the time to add our units of measure to your stats. If you don't care about the American market then feel free to use metric only.

Of course I can do the conversion myself but why should I have to, I'm the customer. I do believe America represents a large enough market for them to print the US units of measure on their products along with those silly metric thingies

-Ralph-
Oh come on... that's just lazy. If you refuse to give up the traditional units (which is fine) just familiarize yourself with the other units.

Its just stilly to handicap yourself... you'll have a hell of a time traveling abroad, reading scientific materials, etc.

Its not that hard and complaining about someone else using metric just looks... spoiled?
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Old May 24, 2006, 02:17 PM
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Any word on this plane? A search for "Hana RTF" Only turns up this thread?!
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