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Old Oct 21, 2008, 10:20 AM
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The Duck

March 2010 REVISIT at post 28



and again on... 12 Nov 2014 ....

Starting at post 35 to become .....

My build log for DUCK !!! Old Guts Fly Again

Read about Old Guts Fly Again contest on Scratchbuild Indoor and Micro Forum
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2281557





Canard French for duck
Duck is redneck for !!!grab your socks!!!

Definitely VTO

video
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1#post10783204

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Old Oct 21, 2008, 10:25 AM
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GOTO post 35 for Old Guts Fly Again
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Old Oct 21, 2008, 11:28 AM
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Lookin' good Gramps. Keep 'em comin'.
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Old Oct 21, 2008, 12:02 PM
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Interesting design Gramps, good luck!
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Old Oct 21, 2008, 12:46 PM
An itch?. Scratch build.
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Could the pilot be..................... 'Duck Dodgers in the 24 1/2th Century'?
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Old Oct 21, 2008, 05:34 PM
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Now that has the Gramps stamp (unique Gramps stylin') all over it!
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 05:39 AM
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Gramps , you may need some positive incidence in the canard...+5 deg. does it for us...
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 06:46 AM
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Rusty,
An experimenters delight

leadfeather,
You made me do it;
LevJet canard (and thanks too, for the Ďplumb-bobí suggestion)
My Harrier follow on, air intake turn out quasi-experimental-canard

eflightray,
You nailed it, too much fun!

aeroknot,
NO WAY

gpw,
Thanks
Area ratio is about 30%
I found no tractor examples (must be a reason )
Note first video hove attempt, too much elevator authority
With flaperon aft (my feeble attempt to counter torque) this should be an absolute blast
With 3c/350mA wing loading is less than 4oz

Duck pending maiden . . . too much wind
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 06:11 PM
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Three-day wind final dropped out
First true canard in more than 50 years RC modeling
Almost dark and I tell you what
All I can say is WOW!

A maiden without one crash
Three lipo packs wishing I had five
YES! VTO to the MAX (Tether test in basement? PRICELESS)
Stalls SWEET
SLOW? At 4oz/sqft maybe the slowest model Iíve flown
Loops and rolls arenít too shabby either

Day two is always the best for me because
Iíve had all night to think about how the sticks felt
What needs changed and what to try tomorrow
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 07:06 PM
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Way to go Gramps! Video please!!
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 09:16 PM
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Very cool design. Gets me thinking -- would a foamie Wright Flyer VTOL? Time to hit the designing table.
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 10:35 PM
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Gramps, you have some of the most inspiring designs.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 05:49 AM
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tymbre,

Thanks

I call it the Ah-Ha-plateau
Just hands-on searching for empirical gratification
Iím old school scratch build 24-7 wood and smelly glue, cover with tissue, plank or shrink wrap, paint and fuel proof to produce maybe two models a year
Experimenting was not practical

Couple years ago I discovered foam and hot glue
!!! E U R E K A !!!
An experimenters delight!
Build may take four hours then fly 20-7
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 10:26 AM
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Day two
light wind
Vid 2, hand launch after overnight adjustments
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1#post10803499
Other vids not VTO but attempts to hover at ground level
between third and half throttle to determine next step.
Suggestions most welcome

Premeditated VTOs at more than half throttle like a rocket, no panic, no problem

p.s. just discovered VanPutte On Canards
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Old Oct 25, 2008, 03:51 AM
Onward through the fog.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gramps:>)
The Duck;

Canard French word for duck
Duck Redneck word for !!! grab your socks !!!

Definitely VTO

Vertical landing?
Very promising but weather sucks here today

Hover?
tbd . . .

video
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1#post10783204

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Very interesting and thought provolking. I, for one, give a big thumbs up!
Steve.
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