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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:36 PM
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What would be the best electric trainer for limited space as far as taking off and landings go. I have a small yard to fly in but once in the air everything is fine. Just wondering what everyone would suggest for a good trainer for taking off and landing in small spaces. Thanks
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:51 PM
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What would be the best electric trainer for limited space as far as taking off and landings go. I have a small yard to fly in but once in the air everything is fine. Just wondering what everyone would suggest for a good trainer for taking off and landing in small spaces. Thanks
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:58 PM
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Already had the Champ. Trying to go a little bigger and something I could fly in light winds
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:02 PM
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Not to split hairs, but you didn't say how big the flyable area of the yard is..... some people have several acres to fly in.... the open part of my back yard is about 40X25.

In addition, many novices have very unrealistic ideas about what surfaces a plane can take off and land on.... I have a trainer that takes twice as much length to take off from astroturf as it does from asphalt. If there is any grass I'd personally use a fairly small plane that can hand launch and belly land
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:02 PM
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Already had the Champ. Trying to go a little bigger and something I could fly in light winds
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:27 PM
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Not to split hairs, but you didn't say how big the flyable area of the yard is..... some people have several acres to fly in.... the open part of my back yard is about 40X25.

In addition, many novices have very unrealistic ideas about what surfaces a plane can take off and land on.... I have a trainer that takes twice as much length to take off from astroturf as it does from asphalt. If there is any grass I'd personally use a fairly small plane that can hand launch and belly land

I'd say the landing area is about 20x50 maybe a little more and it is grass.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 04:30 PM
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The sport cub s will give you ailerons . Although not any bigger it is a good next step .
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 07:13 PM
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I'd say the landing area is about 20x50 maybe a little more and it is grass.
Ok, what about the flyable area?
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 09:31 PM
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flyable area is pretty much open
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Old Jan 25, 2015, 12:44 AM
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I take off and land on small dirt runway next to large field and than fly larger planes over field. I have a good size 182 or gamma to fly. I started to get a fun club many times and got less and changes wheels,props,motors. And most times I go back to flying my champ in the wind just got a new one and old wind plane. If I had got fun club you can land and take off in 6 feet or so. Get the plane you need or keep flying a champ. The sport cub s has safe which would help and is a little bigger.
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Old Jan 25, 2015, 12:10 PM
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You might consider a Slow Stick. It is easily modifiable and can be built correctly in dozens of different configurations. It could be the best way to teach how planes fly and why. (Also, why not!) With the right motor it doesn't need more than 5" of runway to take off. It does need just a bit more area to fly in than a Champ but sounds like your area would be good.

I encourage you to buy the NPS (no power system) version and pick components yourself. The rewards are great.
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Old Jan 26, 2015, 06:35 PM
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Delta Ray.

Excellent 1st, 2nd and 3rd plane.

Handlaunch and bellyflop. No runway required.
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Old Jan 28, 2015, 12:13 PM
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No doubt he could fly a Delta Ray just fine but it won't teach him anything the Champ couldn't. A Slow Stick would be a natural progression in learning, especially if he has an interest in building and/or modifying. Lots of very experienced fliers say that the Slow Stick is their favorite airplane. Haven't seen experienced fliers say they fly their Delta Ray for fun after they have learned to fly.

Maybe I can convince you how fun a Slow Stick can be in about 30 seconds:

Slow Stick Blast Off! (0 min 35 sec)


Really you can't go wrong either way. They're both great planes.
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Old Jan 28, 2015, 05:48 PM
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Thanks everybody for the input. I really like your suggestion and the video RR I'm thinking hard about the slow stick. RR if I get the SS NPS version what setup would you recommend? Thanks
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Old Jan 28, 2015, 11:09 PM
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Haven't seen experienced fliers say they fly their Delta Ray for fun after they have learned to fly.
You must not visit the Delta Ray thread very often then.

My Delta Ray goes with me to the field every time I go and has for almost 2 years.

Being a Delta, the DR has an enormously wide flight envelope that's incredibly hard to get in any other "trainer". It's got the flight envelope of an EDF jet without the inefficiencies of an EDF. It's an incredible airframe.
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