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Old Oct 26, 2012, 07:39 AM
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Where to buy Beacon Foam-Tac

Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread, post all your links on where you can buy the NEW Beacon Adhesives Foam-Tac.

If the vendor is showing the purple card, it is the old product. When they run out of it, there is no guarantee that they will be carrying the new product.

I'll start by posting a link to my page for it: Foam-Tac @ FRC Hobby

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Old Oct 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
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Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread, post all your links on where you can buy the NEW Beacon Adhesives Foam-Tac.

If the vendor is showing the purple card, it is the old product. When they run out of it, there is no guarantee that they will be carrying the new product.

I'll start by posting a link to my page for it: Foam-Tac @ FRC Hobby

Bill
I asked the deacon of beacon (eric) yesterday about the price they are asking and for me they have priced their selfs right out of my building fund. I can use elmers contact cement or gorrila glue or at their price i can buy foam safe ca cheaper. I know they say it's a new formila but they must have mixed gold flakes in it or they are over charging for it because they think this market will keep them in the black. I also think its their company and they can charge anything they want for their glue and some might try it but it wont be me. The reason i build foam planes is because iam to cheap to buy arfs and i like to build different planes than anyone else, but that does not mean i want them to cost as much as arf when done. Good luck with your thread. joe
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 10:30 AM
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I asked the deacon of beacon (eric) yesterday about the price they are asking and for me they have priced their selfs right out of my building fund. I can use elmers contact cement or gorrila glue or at their price i can buy foam safe ca cheaper. I know they say it's a new formila but they must have mixed gold flakes in it or they are over charging for it because they think this market will keep them in the black. I also think its their company and they can charge anything they want for their glue and some might try it but it wont be me. The reason i build foam planes is because iam to cheap to buy arfs and i like to build different planes than anyone else, but that does not mean i want them to cost as much as arf when done. Good luck with your thread. joe
Foam-Safe CA is not cheaper by a long shot. Especially when you include the kicker. If you're using Foam-Safe CA w/out kicker then you don't have a very strong joint at all.

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Old Oct 26, 2012, 11:08 AM
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The beauty of this hobby is its diversity...... Sometimes we find very inexpensive building techniques..... There is a strong micro aircraft interest in this area and these guys will discover something thats usefull and free they all flock to it... Wendys had to dispense Ketchup behind its counters because they made for great mixing cups... McDonalds had their small mixing spoons run out as well as a local supermarket ran out of plastic bags because they were the lightest one for covering open micro airplanes.....

Value is a factor of many variables.... Price, Convenience,Performance,Quality,,each one weighs different on each individual....

For instance.... The difference between a good bar and a bad bar can be just one woman!!!!!!
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 12:09 PM
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Foam-Safe CA: ~$8-10 an ounce.

Welders Adhesive: ~$4 an ounce.

Amazing GOOP: ~$2.2 an ounce.

Gorilla Glue: ~$2.1 an ounce.

Foam-Tac: ~$1.4 an ounce.

I think those results are pretty clear, especially considering that foam-tac is the glue you have to use the least of, relative to the others.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 01:00 PM
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 02:30 PM
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I think joe was expressing that the "NEW FORMULA" Foam Tac is priced at $11.99 for 2 ounces. That is $5.99 an ounce.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 02:46 PM
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"NEW FORMULA"?

There's a "NEW FORMULA"?

Hmm. Dunno what's wrong with the old stuff. I thought he was referring to relative cost to other glues, not to the original foam-tac.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 03:02 PM
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Yea, I would be interested to see what is "new" and "improved" about it. The old stuff was great for it's price point. If it really is $11 a bottle, I will see myself using more hot glue for the foamies.....
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 03:05 PM
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Yea, I would be interested to see what is "new" and "improved" about it. The old stuff was great for it's price point. If it really is $11 a bottle, I will see myself using more hot glue for the foamies.....
Same. If this does become an issue, I'm gonna call beacon, and others should too.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 03:16 PM
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I think those results are pretty clear, especially considering that foam-tac is the glue you have to use the least of, relative to the others.
Where can you find Foam Tac for $1.40 ?

Foam-Safe CA: ~$8-10 an ounce. good for all foams but you need kicker also so it ends up being 12-13 an ounce...fumes and allergies reported

Welders Adhesive: ~$4 an ounce.but only good for epp and epo, hardens and turns brittle, solvents need to have well ventilated spaces

Amazing GOOP: ~$2.2 an ounce.good for epp and epo only, great for epp slopers, can be thinned with Toluene and Xylene, solvents that cause liver damage and cancer

Gorilla Glue: ~$2.1 an ounce., love it but it expands as well as takes hours to set, get it in your hands or hair and good luck

Foam-Tac: ~$5-6 an ounce. low solvent content, relatively fast setting, elastic all pourpose all in one glue, epp, epo, eps, fff,depron safe
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 03:21 PM
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Same. If this does become an issue, I'm gonna call beacon, and others should too.
There is always a self proclaimed Model Polymer Adhesive Scientist in the group....
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 03:28 PM
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More like a business scientist (currently self-employed).

I wouldn't decide to reformulate my product and make it twice as expensive and reduce sales if my customers were happy with the current product.

And about Foam-Tac's cost:

http://www.rcfoam.com/product_info.p...4ff6eab07f6e7b

That's $4.39 for a 2 ounce bottle. $4.39/2oz = $2.2/oz

Hmm - I probably typed something into the calculator wrong earlier. $1.4/oz does seem way too cheap.

Editing original posts... but $2.2/oz is still cheaper than the alternatives I know about.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 03:52 PM
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I find UHU Por to be the most cost effective/easiest to work with foam adhesive.
I buy it from Paul at Electricwingman and always include a few tubes with my order.
http://www.electricwingman.com/uhu-p...ndly-glue.aspx
It comes out to $2.17/oz.
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Old Oct 26, 2012, 07:41 PM
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The reformulation is not the reason for the price increase. The reasons have been stated ad nauseum already... new federal hazmat regulations, increased costs of matierials, increases in shipping costs etc. etc.
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