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Old Feb 11, 2014, 11:57 PM
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FJ-4B FURY...from 3 view to maiden flight

Hi all

Been out of it for a few years but back at it and Wow have the EDF's ever come along!!

Still looking for a good set of retracts for my FlyFly/Jepe HAwk

Anywho...

I have really missed designing and scratchbuilding so I have decided on a completely new and seldom modeled Fighter/bomber Jet..

The FJ-4B Fury

I have just started gathering info and am still deciding on EDF unit but looks like a new 80mm will be perfect for a 1/10 scale model.

Follow along as I go through the enjoyable process of designing and building a scratch built EDF with all of the decisions, choices, and expendatures that go into the completion of such a project.

Feel free to help, interject, object, and add your ideas and comments as we go.

Popcorn anyone???
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 12:10 AM
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She's one of my favorites..... I'm looking forward to this build.

Thanks for sharing.

Dennis


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Hi all

Been out of it for a few years but back at it and Wow have the EDF's every come along!!

Still looking for a good set of retracts for my FlyFly/Jepe HAwk

Anywho...

I have really missed designing and scratchbuilding so I have decided on a completely new and seldom modeled Fighter/bomber Jet..

The FJ-4B Fury

I have just started gathering info and am still deciding on EDF unit but looks like a new 80mm will be perfect for a 1/10 scale model.

Follow along as I go through the enjoyable process of designing and building a scratch built EDF with all of the decisions, choices, and expendatures that go into the completion of such a project.

Feel free to help, interject, object, and add your ideas and comments as we go.

Popcorn anyone???
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 12:18 AM
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Thanks Dennis


Here is my first step..

Get squadron /Signals "In action" book for your choosen subject. They have been making these for years and have covered just about any Aircraft you could care to model and for our purposes it is great for inspiration as there are lots of 3 views,pics and great color drawings in a Centerfold.

Any Good hobby shop will have these books and they are a great value as well.

Here's the cover
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 12:29 AM
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perfect plane to do ....look at all that wing ,trailing arm struts ,just a good looking plane and nobody does them.
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 12:31 AM
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Hi AirSally!!

Next step ...A plastic model of your subject

Great to play with and run around the house making whooshing sounds LOL

What it is also good for is answering alot of detail shape questions that a 3-view or picture won't give you.

Most models now are very accurate as most plastic modelers are older and Very Picky so the Manufacturers need to up there game if they are going to sell their kit over someone elses.

Another nice thing is the kits include a decal sheet that you can send to Callie ,or any other vinyl cutting shop, and have them scale up and cut them to your EDF models size. Decal placement directions are also included in the kit instructions which usually has a very nice drawing which you may use to enlarge and use as building plans..I'll go over that later.

Some of the better manufacturers are:

Hasegawa, Tamiya,Hobby Boss,Trumpeter and of course Revell/Monogram.

Some are inexpensive...SOME are NOT

1/72 scale is a little on the small side so try and get 1/48 scale and you will have alot of guidance in a nice sized package.

I notice John Morgan has a very similar mind set as far as using a plastic model for reference. Check out some of his work, if you haven't already, in the Pusher Jet section.

Here's my Hobby Boss 1/48 scale Fury box art..It is a VERY nice kit BTW

Bruce
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 12:36 AM
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hows it going ? what are you palnning to build it out of ,Foam ,balsa,or composite ?
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 12:53 AM
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I'm doing good, Itchin to build again.

Not sure yet...I may keep it simple and just do it Jetsett44 style, as it gets built quickly, but I find it a little to light weight in windy conditions.

I will probably be doing a little of everything on this one to get back into the swing..ie composites, vacuum formed canopy,etc etc. Probably a foam wing/fuse

It will have retracts, if I can find any good sturdy ones... This is a Navy/Marine Jet so has to have stout gear for all those carrier landings ya know.HA Ha

Any suggetions?

I really like the intake size and the overall shape of this cool Jet!
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 01:41 AM
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Ill be watching! Always wanted to build one
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 02:28 AM
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Your going to need a scale nose gear, for sure.. Might have to go bigger for these, but there nice. Have it in my 1/7th scale F-86F. Still unfinished however.

http://www.robart.com/store/retracts...nose/pneumatic

What is that, --- 105 or 110 forward cant?
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 01:59 PM
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The nose gear was my biggest hurdle but I think I have it figured out

Stay tuned
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 02:06 PM
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My favorite jet of all time.
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 02:09 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 02:12 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2014, 04:02 PM
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Hi Bruce,
good to see you back with a nice project.

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Old Feb 12, 2014, 11:16 PM
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Thanks all!

Next step is determining fan size and intake/exhaust requirements, then making enlargements of the 3 views at a copy shop to the size appropriate to the scale needed.

I have done this a few ways.

MAke photocopies on a copier that does up to 400% enlarging...this actually goes pretty quickly but make sure all of the views on the 3 view are scaled the same I've seen a fuselage side view that is quite off compared to the top view on the same page. Just check and adjust as required on the smaller copies before you make any big ones.

There is also CAD but I digress..

I just enlarged my Fury drawing to 1/10 scale

For those who have no clue about scaling..

Find out the length and wingspan of the real plane. It will usually be in feet and inches, then multiply the feet by 12 and add the inches to get the dimensions all in inches then divide that number by your scale and this will give you the size of your intended model in inches

eg.The Fury in 1/10 scale:

Wingspan - 39'1" 39X12= 468" +1" = 469" / 10 = 46.9"
fuselage length- 36'4" 36X12=432" +4"= 436" / 10 = 43.6"

All in all a nice compact size that will fit in most vehicles...If you own a Smart car .. Put it on the roof for a Turbo Booster LOL

Looks like a nice 80mm JetFan will work ..perhaps a 90mm as well but the intake and exhaust might need enlarging..no thanks

Fury- front of 1/10 photocopy with exacto knife for scale..me like
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