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Old Aug 05, 2005, 04:57 PM
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Brushless on the Slow Stick... Or get a flying wing?

I'm just fishing for comments/opinions. Maybe someone has both and can contribute.

I've got a Slow Stick and like it. I've also been eyeing a Unicorn. I don't fly much, and would like to keep things as low-maintenance as possible. I'm thinking about getting something RC-related for Christmas and my little wheels are turning.

A brushless motor for the SS? Still capable of nice, slow flight and doesn't take up much field space. And, it would be a little better in wind than the stock SS.

A flying wing (probably Unicorn)? Seems like potentially more "fun", but would take up more space. I'm also not really into speed (hence the 'Corn over other wings). Seems like a harder build, but much more durable than the SS. And, they just look really cool. However, this would be more expensive.

The biggest expense on the wing would be that I'd probably want a new radio, since my current one doesn't have dual rates - and I'm pretty new.

Any comments? I'm interested in "quick/easy run over to the field and fly for a little while", but that's not the only consideration.

Thanks,
Jason
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Old Aug 05, 2005, 05:06 PM
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If i were you, i would get the Unicorn. You never know if you are into the speed until you have it. Why don't you just try to get both.

As for a new radio, i would go with the JR XP6102. I have this TX and i love it. It has dual rates and is for both helis and planes. Also it offers PCM or normal FM. It has a lot of good mixes and such plus Horizon is having a sale on it right now.

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Old Aug 05, 2005, 05:34 PM
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I second the XP6102
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Old Aug 05, 2005, 05:57 PM
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Go for a wing, but you don't need dual rates on a wing. I flew a wing for over a year without dual rates, and my dad still flys without dual rates.
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Old Aug 05, 2005, 06:03 PM
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The Unicorn really isn't difficult to build. The plans are very comprehensive & easy to follow. You are rewarded with a plane that can fly amazingly slowly and honestly, can probably be flown in a football field. It also does not need dual rates. I don't have them on my 'Corn.

Additionally you'll get the potential to fly aerobatics like crazy & crash like a drunken sailor, all without sustaining damage.

After a while, you may get interested in some speed & slap in a brushless and have a blast.

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Old Aug 05, 2005, 07:02 PM
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Jason;

The S.S. does fly really nice on a BL set-up, but it is a SLOW Stick and will still be limited by the design even on BL power (just more fun).

A Flying Wing on the other hand is a whole different animal. I personally have and like the Wing Warriors, but the Unicorn comes highly recommended by many. I think you would not be disappointed going the Flying Wing route and it would be a good contrast over your S.S.

Radio wise, I recommend buying a computer radio with enough channels and features for anything you might have in mind in the future. Brand wise, it's really up to you.
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Old Aug 05, 2005, 10:32 PM
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Thanks for the replies so far - sounds like a wing may be the way to go. If a Unicorn can really be flown fairly comfortably in an area the size of a football field, then I can probably deal with that. I would have more space available, but just don't like to use too much.

Another thing on the radio though, is that mine doesn't have mixing either. I know I could buy a mixer to put on the wing, but I'm guessing that's not the best way.

Maybe the Unicorn just seems like a much more complicated build because the manual is so long. And, the photos I've seen just make it look quite a bit harder than the SS was.

Right now, I'm leaning toward the Unicorn though.

Thanks - and any more comments are welcome.

Jason
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Old Aug 05, 2005, 11:39 PM
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Jr 6102

I picked up a new JR 6102 (radio w/tx battery only), off of eBay for under $100. The seller is "bigdeal10" and he seems to have these radios up for auction regularly. If you have the rest of the electronics this is certainly a nice way to go. In addition to what was already mentioned above, this computer radio has a 10 model memory, which is a big plus for me, and will be one that I can "grow with" as my skills progress.

My .02

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Here's a link to one of his auctions:
http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-JR-610...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old Aug 05, 2005, 11:46 PM
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the 6102 has 4 mixes, plus a mix for flaperons, v tail, elevons, aileron/rudder, and flap/elevator.
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Old Aug 06, 2005, 10:13 AM
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Jason;

If you can afford it, upgrade to a computer radio, you'll thank us later on this. Some decent ones are even availible as a TX only at less cost, if you don't need or want to pay for the extra gear.

Wings are a little different type of build, plenty of experienced wing builders here in the forums to offer help where gaps exist in the manual.
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Old Aug 06, 2005, 10:57 AM
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Get the wing.
it will be hard work at first but you will soon see your flying skills improve, likewise get a good radio, preferably one that others in your area are using so if you need help there is a good chance some one near can be of assistance.
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Old Aug 06, 2005, 12:36 PM
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get a good radio, preferably one that others in your area are using so if you need help there is a good chance some one near can be of assistance.
Why would you want to do that? You should get a good radio with many features to sute you when you advance farther into rc, such as the 6102. Just because everyone at your flying club has the eclipse 7 does not mean that you should get that if it does not do what you need it to do. If you need help w/ a radio you get you can always ask us here.

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Old Aug 06, 2005, 12:47 PM
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For radios, I have been considering a Flash 5. I currently only have a SS, so I'm going to need full electrics if I get a wing. The Flash 5 comes with a decent Rx and appropriate servos. I think it would be sufficient for me.

Although I do really enjoy this hobby, I'm not hardcore about it. I really don't have any intentions on gathering a fleet of planes, nor can I justify spending $200+ on a radio system. I just don't have the time or the flying space to go all-out. So, I think the Flash 5 will work fine. I would rather only have 2-3 planes and get to know them really well anyway.

You guys are convincing me that the wing is the way to go though.

It will be Christmas before I'm able to get anything, so things can change.

Thanks,
Jason
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Old Aug 06, 2005, 01:13 PM
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For radios, I have been considering a Flash 5. I currently only have a SS, so I'm going to need full electrics if I get a wing. The Flash 5 comes with a decent Rx and appropriate servos. I think it would be sufficient for me.

Although I do really enjoy this hobby, I'm not hardcore about it. I really don't have any intentions on gathering a fleet of planes, nor can I justify spending $200+ on a radio system. I just don't have the time or the flying space to go all-out. So, I think the Flash 5 will work fine. I would rather only have 2-3 planes and get to know them really well anyway.....
You won't need a 5 channel radio if all you plan on flying is your Slow Stick and a flying wing. Why not stick with the radio you have now (I assume it has 3 channels if you've been using it with your Slow Stick) until you have the time, money, and inclination to take your flying hobby further. There is no need to buy a new Tx just to get a new aircraft. There are plenty of affordable, fun aircraft for a three-channel radio system - go buy one of them before you throw money away on a bad 5-channel radio that you might not even need. If at some point you decide that you want to get into the hobby more and expand your fleet and flying capabilities, spend a little more cash on a *good* radio that you can grow into, rather than grabbing the first bargain-bin 4 or 5 channel transmitter you find.
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Old Aug 06, 2005, 02:05 PM
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> I'm interested in "quick/easy run over to the field and fly for a little while",

Rather than a wing, why not get something from the SuperFly line? They are more suitable for messing around in a small field rather than high speed or soaring, but equally simple and indestructable.

> Why would you want to do that?

At least the same brand, if not model. It's a big help if you have a problem with the programming (a club member had throttle mixed to ailerons(!) this week but we were able to fix it in seconds) and when a beginner arrives you can couple to radios together with a buddy lead and give them a go.
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