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Old Apr 12, 2013, 03:25 PM
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I've noticed that when called on these arguments, the reaction is unlike the reactions of others that push these ideologies. Very much like "No skin" in the game type arguing. Pick and choose which laws to obey and live by and also which ones to enforce. All arguments are based on emotions of others, yet there is zero emotion involved from the one arguing the ideologies. Total and absolute detachment. Yet zero enthusiasm or passion that would normally follow someones complete believe in the arguments being argued.
maybe I am a robot?
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 03:28 PM
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Who is a hypocrite and what would it even matter? What I posted is the truth. It is true whether or not the people giving the message followed it 100% in their own lives. The message isn't JUST don't have sex. It is you shouldn't and this is why. You don't have to then give them a condom. We don't give young people beer or cigarettes and they still somehow get them. Tell them why IF they are going to have sex they would want to use a condom. Do boys not respect girls enough anymore to accept no as an answer? Do girls think they NEED to say yes to be popular? How does handing them all condoms effect how that could be answered?
I see your point... being a hypocrite doesn't matter one way or the other.

The hypocrites I was talking about are some of our religious leaders...as this type of morality is based on religious beliefs.

condoms would help stop the spread of STD's.
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 03:45 PM
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I see your point... being a hypocrite doesn't matter one way or the other.

The hypocrites I was talking about are some of our religious leaders...as this type of morality is based on religious beliefs.

condoms would help stop the spread of STD's.
Citing the bible doesn't make it wrong. It is simply an ineffective way to reach an audience beyond their congregation. Condoms COULD stop the spread of STD's though so would not having sex or having sex with fewer partners. The problem with handing them out in school is the mixed message it sends. We know young people have urges. Giving them condoms is treating them as if we expect them to give into them. That kind of message is not without consequences. So why give them out? Can they not find them? They are sold most everywhere.
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 03:55 PM
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I'm honestly not sure what the right answer is here.

the town I live in, may or may not, still have the highest teen pregnancy rate in the state.
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 04:20 PM
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maybe I am a robot?
That explains the programming. Thanks for clearing it up.
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 04:23 PM
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That explains the programming. Thanks for clearing it up.
maybe it's because I'm a Buddha?
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 04:32 PM
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i actually have no problem with free birth control. In high school i always carried a dozen or so trojans in my glove box. I would much rather loose 75 cents and try to help prevent something that would change a lot of lives for a one night stand. Personally i believe in marriage first, but the that is something that is a personal choice. That shame is that so many people think about pleasure first and the hell with the outcomes.

As i have said many times, i believe abortion creates a real problem for a lot of women who realize later in life what they did and cannot get rid of the guilt and pain and seek help that doesn't come cheap.

But we must admit that as a society we have supported poor choices for too long and enabled piss poor behavior patterns that need to change. Nothing makes a person start thinking like having to pay for their mistakes. If it never costs them anything, what is the incentive to do things right.
You Naughty Boy!
Most young men and woman I would hope are very concerned about an unwanted pregnancy and hopefully take precautions, but there are obviously those that could care less and just enjoy the fun until they realise what all that fun can create. I believe for the most part education ie sex ed is paramount in exposing and preparing young adults to the challenges they will no doubt face as they enter this stage in life, and not doing so based on moral issues is totally unrealistic IMO. Maybe someone here can post some statistics on which group(s) of woman are having abortions and or most likely to seek an abortion and that would give a clearer picture of where the problems exist.
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 04:49 PM
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maybe it's because I'm a Buddha?
playing on your terms, sure.
You and I however can disagree with what the word Buddha actually means though, but that won't change what is. Only what we call you.
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 05:02 PM
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And there's the pitch,..... slow and over the plate.
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 05:16 PM
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with the government's money.

Do you want to stop abortions or not?
The government does not have any money, they only have what they steal from us.
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 05:29 PM
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So why haven't we changed the approach we take as society. We seem to pick and choose what information we pay attention to .
As society expands and populations flock to urban centers for employment and education it's quite understandable why the culture and family discipline of a rural life has slowly eroded. Given that fact it's paramount that todays kids be educated as to what problems they will most certainly face as they enter puberty.
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Old Apr 12, 2013, 08:36 PM
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I see your point... being a hypocrite doesn't matter one way or the other.

The hypocrites I was talking about are some of our religious leaders...as this type of morality is based on religious beliefs.

condoms would help stop the spread of STD's.
How 'bout the Leftist hypocrites that scream the loudest about helping their fellow man...


...then give less to charity by far than the right-wingers.

I'm not religious at all, but I will acknowledge that churches do a lot of good things for people through charities, soup kitchens, shelters, etc.
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