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Old Nov 25, 2006, 11:51 AM
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Sparc Suzuki mixed review

As a sucker to add toy motorcycles to my collection, I ordered the Sparc Suzuki off-road motorcycle from Horizon as soon as it was available.

First, It is made by Taiyo. Someone in Australia has one on ebay in a Taiyo box. I've got the small Taiyo (sold only by Discovery channel) in the U.S. I really like the small one. It's about the same size as the small Tyco, but it has front and rear suspension. It's really fun in a small concrete area.

The new (larger)one is actually a little smaller than the Tyco versions that use the folding 7.2 v pack. From the photos, I was expecting something larger than the tyco. This Sparc uses a 6 volt flat pack, and it's much slower than the Tycos. It does, however, handle very well. It doesn't have the spinning gyro like the Tycos, but the weighted wheels do a very nice job for the gyro. It has a spring front and rear suspension just like the smaller Taiyo and like the larger Tycos.

It's just tooooooooooo slow. I'll probably open it up and put in a hotter motor and see.

Stan in Dodge City
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Old Nov 25, 2006, 07:27 PM
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Hi!

I know what you are talking about.
It's a Taiyo 1/6 bike (Suzuki RM250) listed below.
http://www.taiyo-toy.co.jp/lineup/bike/rm250/index.html

I never owned that 6V version of 1/6 bike, but have a big interest in modification of Taiyo 1/6 bikes (7.2V version).

So far, I replaced the stock motor to CT280BB ahowing in the picture, and it speeds up successfully.

I also tried 8 cell (9.6V-1400mAh) NiMh battery pack, but it burned the stock radio amp board.

So, now I'm cosidering to replace the stock radio by a FM proportional.
And, more challenging idea is to istall a brushless motor system.

Do you think it's rather ridiculous to use a brushless to such a Toy bike?
I'm not sure if the gear train will get damaged.
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Old Nov 25, 2006, 07:42 PM
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Brushless might be overkill

Thanks for sharing your upgrades. I've seen some of the upgrades on the overseas Taiyo's, and they look nice. That's why I got a spare of the smaller Taiyo..to upgrade someday. I'm afraid that the brushless would be more than the plastic non-bearing gears could take. I'll try to get one of the 280BB motors, though. Did you use it with the stock 6 volt batterypack and stock receiver/esc package? If you like driving on concrete, get the Taiyo Honda street bike. It's about the same size as the Suzuki, but it's a little faster. Again, it's much better than the Tyco street Honda.
Stan in Dodge City.
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Old Nov 25, 2006, 07:44 PM
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Stan, some how I just knew you would be one of the first to get one. How many bikes are in your collection now?
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Old Nov 25, 2006, 08:54 PM
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I tried to install CT280BB for two bikes.

1. Taiyo 1/6 offroad bike shown in the previous picture.
It works with 7.2V NiCd pack and stock radio.
This is a video of modified YZ250.

Taiyo YZ250 (0 min 33 sec)


2. Taiyo 1/6 onroad bike RC-211V
It works with 6V NiCd pack and stock radio.
I only changed the motor, and you can see the video below.

Non Stop! RC-211V (0 min 58 sec)


3. Further upgraded Taiyo 1/6 onroad bike RC-211V
I also tried 8cell 9.6V NiMh pack to this bike, but it burned the stock radio.
Now it has a proportional radio, and 8 cell IB1400 (9.6V-1400mAh) pack.
I do not have any video of it yet.
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Old Nov 25, 2006, 10:28 PM
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Thanks for the videos and photos

I had seen your off-road video before. That's what got me thinking about doing some mods myself. Your rider must buy aspirin by the case.

Thanks also for the photos of the Taiyo on-road. That bike isn't available in the states....darn it. I've seen it on ebay in England, but the bike and shipping would be over $100 US...a bit steep for a $40 bike.


Thanks again,
Stan in Dodge City
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 02:10 AM
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the taiyo on road looks cool
I hope they wont get any in my superstore

tom4, or I'll have to buy one.
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Old Dec 09, 2006, 10:22 AM
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Brushless on Taiyo!

Hi!

I finally converted Taiyo 1/6 off road bike to a beyond Toy with KV4200 Brushless, FM Proportional radio and 8cell (9.6V-1400mAh).

Please see all the process that actually took only one day.

Test drive not yet!
I'll go to sleep now.
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Old Dec 09, 2006, 10:33 AM
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Wow!

Can't wait to see a video

Good Job!

Ciao
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Old Dec 16, 2006, 09:17 AM
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New motor

Hi!

I installed a new motor for a spare drive mission for Taiyo Offroad bike.

Motor spec;
XYH: OK-BS2030SP-5200
KV 5200
Inner roater type
Max Amp: 14A

I tested the motor, and it works realy good.
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Old Jan 02, 2007, 09:29 AM
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Brushless RC-211V

Hi!

I tried to install "OK-BS2030SP-5200" to RC-211V.
I had to cut a lot of plastics around the motor end, then finally completed.

This motor works really fast.
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Complete RC-211V

I installed Futaba S3103 Micro Servo into steering assy.

Now, new RC-211V completed.
Maybe, better start a new thread.
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Jealous

I'm so jealous of your Moviestar bike. They are not available in the US. One guy has put one up on ebay for something like $110 plus $25 shipping. He's tried it twice, and so far no one has taken the bait.
Great looking bike..how avout video?
Thanks,
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I installed Futaba S3103 Micro Servo into steering assy.

Now, new RC-211V completed.
Maybe, better start a new thread.
Are you still around to ask some questions on these?
I bought a sparc bike and want to convert to BL.

I am trying to figure out how to get the rear axle locking collar off so i can pull the motor, what KV BL motor works the best ( i will most likely use a mamba 25 esc), your last steering servo mod, doesn't it fight with the arm when turning in any direction, and there was something else but it is lost in my head at the moment....

Thanks Matt
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Question: How slow is "too slow" for the stock SPARC Suzuki? For someone who has never controlled an RC Motorcycle before, would it be a good trainer?
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