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Old Jun 05, 2003, 02:23 PM
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Rutan ARES EDF

Just when you thought you had them all!

From the skunk works of K&A Models

The Rutan ARES for EDF



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Old Jun 05, 2003, 02:24 PM
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Cool - I like it. Fan size?
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Old Jun 05, 2003, 02:29 PM
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ARES is set up for mini 480 or HW 609.
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Old Jun 05, 2003, 02:33 PM
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Ken,
Excellent looking model. When will it be available? What are the flying characteristics like?

Mark.
(owner of an L-39, still in the box! )
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Old Jun 05, 2003, 02:57 PM
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ARES

Ken, thats one mean looking plane any idea on kit price? What are the main flight controls on the plane? Elevons or do the canards work?
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Old Jun 05, 2003, 06:25 PM
EDF rules... :)
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Hi Ken,

Very nice airplane, give us more to chew on. What controls, how does it fly? Keep up the great products.

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Old Jun 05, 2003, 06:34 PM
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Old Jun 05, 2003, 09:38 PM
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Ok here goes,
The ARES has a 46.5" span with 320.7 sq in. wing area. Flying weight is around 55 oz all up on 10 CP-1700 size cells. Loading is a light 24 oz per sq ft.
We are only flying using elevons. A new set of canards will be used to test the elevator on the canard.
The ARES is extremly stable in flight. An early prototype was flown to test stability, weight, CG etc.
This kit is one of the most complex we have done to date. If you look at the photo what looks white in color is balsa over foam. The tail booms are fully molded and simply glue in place to the wing. If you look at the main fuselage all that is gray in color less the tail booms is fully molded in one piece. There is a spar pre-installed in the wing and sub ribs to support the main fibergalss wing skins.
The outboard wing panels are pre-sheeted and plug in with the spar and joiner are pre-installed. The canopy hatch is also fiberglass and we have a clear canopy to go with it as well. The front canards are also balsa over foam and are pre-sheeted.
What's left for the builder....not much. Couple of alignment pins, tip blocks and glass canard and outboard wing panels, radio and power unit, paint and lets go fly.
Price on the kit is $389.99. It's not cheap but we thinks it's reasonable for a plane that is for the most part re-built.
We have kits being assembled now and we are excepting orders. Please keep this in mind. This plane took us 7 months to do just the fuselage pattern and mold. The fuselage mold has 7 different parting lines in order to get the part back out of the mold once layed up. There will only be one mold ever made for this plane. These are all custom built ARES that you are getting so please be patient. Kits will go out in the order they came in no exceptions.


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Old Jun 06, 2003, 02:14 AM
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cool now I can throw the one away I have been building for a few months! LOL I would imagine canards would be alot like Firebat and the Mig 1.44 I built a while ago. The candards did nothing but scrub speed with little authority. I think you guys are on the right track with elevons, but I guess you need to test things.

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Old Jun 06, 2003, 07:18 AM
EDF rules... :)
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Cool, I like this plane and you guys are taking a top notch approach to developing it.

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Old Jun 06, 2003, 07:29 AM
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looks very slick.
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Old Jun 06, 2003, 09:18 AM
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Damn, I love this plane! Shame about the price though, it's out of my reach.

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Old Jun 06, 2003, 09:47 AM
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Price on the kit is $389.99. It's not cheap but we thinks it's reasonable
Its a great plane, but your price is FAR from reasonable !

Its your market study data, so you have probably figured it out.

I personally believe that a good target price is between $120 ~ $250. Once you break the $250 "barrier" your market goes way down.


Keep in mind: "Most people that do EDF's do not expect a complete kit "
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Old Jun 06, 2003, 10:04 AM
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Great looking almost ready to cover plane. Cost is Ok for retail.
Need more pictures. Would like to look up the tail of this beauty.

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Old Jun 06, 2003, 10:16 AM
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By the way, some more pictures of the "Real thing"
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