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Old Oct 18, 2004, 08:54 AM
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Soldering Deans

Does anyone have any suggestions for soldering an GWS ESC to a deans connector ?

I still need to look at http://awilletts.ezonemag.com/deansultra.mpg but wondered if anyone had any more advice, tips etc ?


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Old Oct 18, 2004, 10:12 AM
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Andy's film details all the steps on how to do it right.

I use one of those $9.95 Radio Shack hobby holders with alligator clips to hold the wire and the deans.
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Old Oct 18, 2004, 11:48 AM
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Yeah, the plastic piece gets too hot to hold - i use needlenose vice grips.
Be sure you put the heat shrink tube on BEFORE you solder and hold it back away from the joint with some tape. Dont try to slip it over until its cooled off, otherwise it'll grip up quickly before you get it all the way over the joint.
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Old Oct 18, 2004, 05:12 PM
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I have started connecting a blank deans to the one I am soldering to keep from distoring the alignment. Probably just me, but I have messed up some.

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Old Oct 18, 2004, 11:28 PM
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LcJ, no...not just you. I messed a couple up last time I did a Deans marathon soldering event! I think your suggestion of using another connector is a good one.
I also scrub down the metal tab surface with sandpaper before I hit it with the solder.
Yes, that radio shack helping hands thing is great...just got mine last week. What a difference!!! I had to order it directly from RS online since no shack within 1,000 miles seemed to carry it?? Arrived in 2 days!
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Old Oct 18, 2004, 11:35 PM
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I'm expecting a bunch of Deans Ultra connectors in a couple of days. Could anyone tell me what the standard way to connect them up is? I gather the male plugs go on the ESC and the female on the batteries, but which way do the positive and negative terminals go? (I know it isn't important as long as I'm consistant, but it would still help if I've got the same setup as everyone else).

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Old Oct 18, 2004, 11:47 PM
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The video was a big help. I also use the aligator clip helping hands device and radio shack 40 w iron.

bugeater...follow the directions on the deans package and your right consistent is good!!

PS....I melted plenty of plugs before becoming proficient!
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Old Oct 18, 2004, 11:49 PM
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Recently I have had lots of success soldering Deans Ultra Plugs. In the past it's been hit and miss, usually resulting in hard to disconnect or sofened plastic. here's my techniuque.

**Clean iron with a file >each< time before approaching item to solder.
Apply a little solder to iron first to ease heat transfer
Attach mating plug
Tin plug with a small amount of solder (should only take 2 seconds)
tin wire that attaches to plug, use lots of solder here
flaten tinned wire with smooth jaw pliers (makes for a compact joint on plug), I even trim that flatten wire a little on the sides (not a good practice but give very compact joints)
Slip heat shrink onto wire
**Lay wire onto plug, heat wire with iron >>not the plug<<
Are you fileing and retinning iron each time you solder? Try it.
**Do not linger while soldering you should only be "on it" for 3 seconds,... tinning requires less time

Works for me. Deans plugs are now easy for me to solder, and easy to pull apart.

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Old Oct 19, 2004, 01:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bugeater
I'm expecting a bunch of Deans Ultra connectors in a couple of days. Could anyone tell me what the standard way to connect them up is? I gather the male plugs go on the ESC and the female on the batteries, but which way do the positive and negative terminals go? (I know it isn't important as long as I'm consistant, but it would still help if I've got the same setup as everyone else).

Thanks,
Marty
The connectors are marked. Red wire is positive, black negative.
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Old Oct 19, 2004, 05:04 AM
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And the Female plug is always attached the battery. If you did the male to the battery, youd have lotsa short-circuit accidents , like when you drop a battery pack in your pocket along with a set of car keys...

On the speedo, its Male on the Input and female on the output so you can never accidentally attach the battery to the output wires.

Dont forget the male on the charger! or at least make a dongle adapter plug.
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Old Oct 19, 2004, 05:12 AM
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And the best part is there is a diagram on each package. Once you've done the first one correctly, you have a pattern for the rest. You can also solder other female adapter onto a dean's male and you can connect different esc to a standard deans battery pack. I also have an Aztec lipo charger and it came with a GWS plug. Since the charge current is so low I just made an adapter to go frow gws to deans so the charger could work with different packs. May never have one, but you never know.

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Old Oct 19, 2004, 06:59 AM
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Well I tinned my wires OK

But I am having real trouble tinning the deans plug. The solder doesnt seem to want to stick - I tried roughing the plug metal using sand paper which let me get one metal tab done.

The soolder seems to barely stay molten even after keeping the iron on it for a few seconds.

I am using a small iron tip - would a larger one help ?
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Old Oct 19, 2004, 07:02 AM
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Here is a picture and some tips using the Radio Shack holder/deans (post 22)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...8&page=2&pp=15

I just bought a Radio Shack instant heat 100 watt iron ($12.99!). It gets the solder on the joint quick without incenerating the work.
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Old Oct 19, 2004, 07:14 AM
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digsy, it's not so much the tip size as the power of the iron. As sargentw and others have said, a more powerful gun will get the job done quicker and, because of the shorter duration, will reduce the risk of melting the plastic body.
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Old Oct 19, 2004, 07:31 AM
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Digsy,

Here is the Radio Shack 100 watt Gun. It's a far cry from the monster weller gun my dad had 40 years ago that was good for burning holes in 2x4's. It's small compact and easy to handle.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1&goto=newpost

When I first started soldering Deans I was really scratching my head and burning the fingers. There is plenty of good info here to get you started right.

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