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Old Jan 11, 2013, 06:16 AM
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Just the mechanical problems which are apparent. Inverted the whole mechanism just holds by the small plastic parts of the cover. ...
But according to the description of the pilot, the crash was not caused by a failure of the folding mechanism.

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Old Jan 11, 2013, 08:42 AM
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No, the two plastic halves stayed together. What I meant was "is it capable". I would of sworn that in the first two flights I did a couple of curcuits inverted. The last flight when I rolled inverted it dove to the ground. I am thinking that the troubled launches dislodged the control horns enough that I didn't have full negative deflection of the control surfaces. I just would like to be sure.

Does anyone have a small plastic parts set for the glider version? I haven't been able to find any in stock. It looks like this plane is on the way out....
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 08:46 PM
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No, the two plastic halves stayed together. What I meant was "is it capable". I would of sworn that in the first two flights I did a couple of curcuits inverted. The last flight when I rolled inverted it dove to the ground. I am thinking that the troubled launches dislodged the control horns enough that I didn't have full negative deflection of the control surfaces. I just would like to be sure.

Does anyone have a small plastic parts set for the glider version? I haven't been able to find any in stock. It looks like this plane is on the way out....
It's been around a long time, so that's a possibilty. But also parts for these planes are typically rare and hard to get. Maybe the best approach is to buy another kit as spare parts....
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 05:35 AM
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I'm sure Jurgen knows about the future of Xeno ...
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 11:36 AM
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I'm sure Jurgen knows about the future of Xeno ...
Sorry, but I can't say anything about the future of the Xeno.

Spare parts don't seem to be a problem - at least not over here in Germany:

http://www.vogel-modellsport.de/RC-F...69a79ebdff4640

(Just an example)

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Old Jan 14, 2013, 09:01 AM
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Sorry, but I can't say anything about the future of the Xeno.

Spare parts don't seem to be a problem - at least not over here in Germany:

http://www.vogel-modellsport.de/RC-F...69a79ebdff4640

(Just an example)

Jürgen
Well it would almost be cheaper to buy the kit than pay for shipping from Germany to the USA.....

edit: never mind! I see tower hobbies shows the xeno as discontinued, so I guess it is already......
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 01:25 PM
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edit: never mind! I see tower hobbies shows the xeno as discontinued, so I guess it is already......
Well, it looks like the Xeno is still available - not from Tower, but from Multiplex USA:

http://www.multiplexusa.com/model-kits/index.html

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Old Jan 15, 2013, 09:47 AM
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Well, it looks like the Xeno is still available - not from Tower, but from Multiplex USA:

http://www.multiplexusa.com/model-kits/index.html

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It doesn't look like they sell direct.

But they don't list the Xeno as discontinued..... yet.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 12:34 PM
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see the price near the factory :
http://shop.lindinger.at/product_inf...de41fd6119d383
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Old Feb 26, 2013, 02:03 AM
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Angled stabilizers at the end of wing: is it a problem?

Hello pilots.

I saw in 2 posts that some people move their vertical stabilizers to the end of wings, like winglets.
In these 2 pics it seems that stabilizers are not in line with the flying wing central line. So is an angled winglet a problem or no influence on flight? (I'm building a new flying wing starting from my multicrashed Xeno wings)

Thanks!
Denis

EDIT: found the answer after some research on RCG and on other websites: the winglets "toe-in" can help to stabilize yaw, acting like dihedral. Seems that angle between 2 and 9 degrees is commonly used, my angle is 8 degrees, I will try that and modify if not ok.
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Old Jul 27, 2013, 11:21 AM
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This is an awesome slope flying plane!!!!!

I recieved one of these for xmas due to a scheme between my LHS owner and my loving daughters. Didnt even know I needed one. This thread was a long but useful read. I toed in my fins 2° per side, moved the servos to the top, balanced perfectly at the second sparlet with an 800mah 4cell Eneloop pack, Spektrum 6115 and no power pack; then headed out to an awesome 300ft windward dune with 6 other guys that had Xenos. Only one had a power system, the others were all pure gliders. We would gently push them forward horizontally and they would politely rise vertically 20 feet while we'd fumble for the stick. The next hour was pure joy. No yaw problems except when flopping out of a stall turn or humptybump. I may add a Blue Wonder to the tail someday for powering back up the dune on lighter air days, but don't hold your breath! This thing is pretty awesome for slope flying. We were flying in 25knots gusting to 30 and this plane was in its prime there. Day 2 was lighter lift at 10 to 15 knots and a tad cross slope at times (which reduces the lift that a given windspeed provides) , so only the powererd guy went up Xeno but he said the power pack was not necessary at 15knots. Most of us flew other planes like the Alula and HK Minimoa in the dicier lift becaause we had them. Most of all the site required some serious climbing up and sliding down in a jungle of roots and sand so the folding wing and Multiplex bag were awesome features. The bag even held my lunch and radio for the climbing part. The bag has a 1/4" pad between the wings and a padded tube at the wide (hinge) end that holds the fins,hatch cover and lunch. My daughters do love me so.....
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Old Aug 14, 2013, 04:13 AM
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slope flying

Yesterday, I flew my Xeno, glider version, at Sasayama, Chichibu, Japan.
Although the wind condition was not so good, my Xeno flew well.

My friend Takaya took short vids:


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Old Aug 16, 2013, 12:43 PM
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Nice Xeno, Cvlex. Unusual to see a soaring Xeno, going to do the same with mine. Did you not fly a Merlin at the same place, on another video?
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 05:49 PM
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Did you not fly a Merlin at the same place, on another video?
Oh yes, I flew my Merlin at the same place.

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Old Aug 20, 2013, 07:25 PM
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What kind of speed are these Xeno's good for?

Stock airframe structure......
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