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Old Dec 04, 2012, 05:39 PM
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As far as the balsa planes go, I would really like to see some of your plans. i like the 1/12 size for fun planes
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 04:39 AM
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there are a few reasons why there isnt the scale attraction like there is in europe....

...any of the scale that is flown here is constructed from foam and /or corroplast.
there has been some good models developed by some really talented builder/designers but nothing on a large scale that can be bought and at a reasonable price
As I mentioned before, I am a newcomer to rc combat, but I see the same tendencies in Europe. For me the show is a large part of scale combat. I would like to see WW2 helmets, well-known fighters, rc combat squadron emblems etc.

Less rules is easy, but some people always go to the extreme in using them. Large number of limitations seems complicated, but with a good drawing you do not need to even think about most of them. Just build scale and you are within the allowable tolerances.

Open class is good, because maybe the harvester guys will leave. I saw a scale competition once where a Bellanca 28-90 Flash was wreacking havock. It had sand on every possible leading edge and it got multiple cuts every flight. I saw from other guys faces that they were not having fun at all. This is rc combat with model planes not Formula One World Championship. I just don`t understand why some participants want to win so badly that they are willing to ruin the whole competition class. Let others chase you and chase others in style. Rare planes add colour, but I don`t like the way these are used.

Maybe people should think more about how to make mainstream fighters more popular. The Germans experiment with reduced streamer catchers idea that I like. They allow catchers only on wing leading edge 30cm from the fuselage or engine gondolas in case of two engined planes. So no matter what wingspan the model has, only 30cm from the fuselage cuts the streamer. At least in theory. Maybe allowing attack planes, divebombers etc to use one category lower engine or only 0.15 engine helps.

Building the first model of a type is most time consuming, especially If one wants to build a different plane every time. Serious competitors usually make several models of a same type. Second balsa model could be made ready for covering and accessories in a weekend. Those who want a quick build may take a simpler design, like Timo Starkloff Yak-9, Steve Hergett P-51, Martin Elmberg P-39 etc. Many fighters used a one or two colour scheme and most those tones are available as iron on covering. When building from foam you do not need a CNC cutter. Rectangular bow and the gravity of Earth make almost every fighter easily doable. Cover with balsa or brown paper. Some inspiration: http://aircombat.modelarji.com/viewforum.php?f=9

Instead of building a robust balsa warbird, many buy foamy warbirds that cost considerable amount of money. Some guys crash the same number of foamies in a year that rc combat pilots.

Anyway, here are some plans and other stuff: I haven`t designed any plans myself yet.

For free:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=703640
http://www.aircombat.de/baubrett/plaene/plaene.html
http://aircombat.modelarji.com/viewf...b22ae12a57818a
http://www.ultraligero.net/Aeromodelos/M/m.htm
http://www.profili2.com/eng/default.htm Plans and drawings from the left menu and you can search combat models there.
http://www.svensons.com/airplanes/
http://aviationshoppe.com/airplane_plans/
http://www.allinflight.com/aeromod/aermIng_prog.htm
http://corsair.flugmodellbau.de/
Diverse bauplšne in left menu.
http://www.4shared.com/all-images/nt...argentina.html
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/browse_pl...lts.asp?page=1
http://plans.aerofred.com/
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showt...TBM-3R-Avenger Plan is in thread.

For money:
http://www.rccombat.com/sections/man...its_morfis.htm
http://shop.vth.de/catalogsearch/res.../?p=1&q=combat

Some pictures:
http://aircombat.dmfv.aero/allgemein...smodelle-wwii/
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 01:05 AM
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those are cool! whats the "brown paper" covering proccess?
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 12:29 PM
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http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190499
Google "covering models with brown paper" and you will get even more information.
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 05:33 PM
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cool, thank you!
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 12:07 PM
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The latest scale class in the U,S. Is the 2948 scale.Rules at www.rccombat.com. It has leveled the playing field when compared to earlier scale classes. Back on topic, the Gnat is designed to get new combat pilots in your club. If they never advance beyond the Gnat, at least you will have local pilots to chase streamers with. Have fun. Some of us hope to see some of the new pilots move into other classes with time.
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 05:11 PM
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A few in our club are starting some combat with 150 watt motors, 1300 MA batteries. The plane is fanfold 1/4inch insulation with a wood dowel leading edge. Hitec HS55 servos or equivalent do the steering. 12 to 16 ounces ready to fly depending on how you build them.

We have yet to have our first contest. A couple of the guys are ordering the parts in bulk. I think 30 motors were bought in one batch along with ESC's, deans connecters, batteries etc.

I think it will be fun.

Ken
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