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Old Jan 07, 2013, 09:22 PM
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Next heli after a Blade Nano CP X? Blade 300X? 450 3D? 450X?

Hey guys,

Begging your pardon for the next heli question. Been researching tons and want good honest opinions and not responses to agree with what I want.

My goal: Move up to a larger CCPM heli between 300-500 class.

Experience: Novice

Fleet: Tons of planks. Nine Eagles Bravo Fixed Pitch Micro. Blade Nano CP X.

I have a good number of flights on my Nano and can hover indoors. Outside I fly circuits, figure eights and hovers. I have yet to attempt any kind of 3D on it. Atm I use Phoenix Flight with my DX7s to practice 3D and orientation skills so I save myself $ when I crash.

I feel I am ready to move up and would like opinions on what would be reasonable, efficient and smart to keep practicing sport flying but have the capability to transition to 3D when I am ready. Having a Spektrum DX7s I am looking closely at the Blade helis. I like the 300x, 450 3D and 450 x. I hear great things about the 450x but the headspeed and responsiveness are intimidating. I know I can tone it down but being a novice at setting up helis I worry about being able to maintain the flybarless system. I hear the 300x is having mechanical/vibration issues. So far, the 450 3D looks the most appealing. The BNF basic is right up my alley. I already have an iCharger and 11.1v 2200 mah packs.

Im interested to hear opinions or experience from owners of the above helis or possible other helis I should consider. Thanks guys
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 05:38 AM
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Hey guys,

Begging your pardon for the next heli question. Been researching tons and want good honest opinions and not responses to agree with what I want.

My goal: Move up to a larger CCPM heli between 300-500 class.

Experience: Novice

Fleet: Tons of planks. Nine Eagles Bravo Fixed Pitch Micro. Blade Nano CP X.

I have a good number of flights on my Nano and can hover indoors. Outside I fly circuits, figure eights and hovers. I have yet to attempt any kind of 3D on it. Atm I use Phoenix Flight with my DX7s to practice 3D and orientation skills so I save myself $ when I crash.

I feel I am ready to move up and would like opinions on what would be reasonable, efficient and smart to keep practicing sport flying but have the capability to transition to 3D when I am ready. Having a Spektrum DX7s I am looking closely at the Blade helis. I like the 300x, 450 3D and 450 x. I hear great things about the 450x but the headspeed and responsiveness are intimidating. I know I can tone it down but being a novice at setting up helis I worry about being able to maintain the flybarless system. I hear the 300x is having mechanical/vibration issues. So far, the 450 3D looks the most appealing. The BNF basic is right up my alley. I already have an iCharger and 11.1v 2200 mah packs.

Im interested to hear opinions or experience from owners of the above helis or possible other helis I should consider. Thanks guys
I would suggest the 450X from those three and also compared to others in that size.
You can reduce the head speed to 75% max and the dual rates and expo to gentle settings. It flys really well even which a soft setup. Then as you get better, just need to creep the settings up a notch or two.
You get good spares and support by using a mainstream heli and manufacturer. That is very important when you are beginning.
I have several sized Helis and I think the 450 is the best choice between small and twitchy and bigger more stable that you can still fly at or near home without any fuss. Lots of practice is what it is all about.
The 450X flys like a bigger heli.

The BeastX FBL controller comes very well setup and when you are happy with it, doesn't need any maintenance at all. Mine was fine out of the box. I didn't touch it. I do have two bigger Helis both with BeastXs, which I set up from scratch.

Good luck.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 07:58 AM
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The 450X would be fine. The headspeed is a lot less than that Blade Nano. The blades are just a little bigger.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 09:01 AM
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Not a blade flier, but if you no longer worry about orientation, then you're no longer a novice. Regardless of how 'twitchy' they say a 450 is, it still doesn't compare to a micro. Cyclic movements that would send a micro heli zooming out of sight, is just enough to make a 450 sized heli hover, and you'll actually have to slow down to let a 450 keep up. You need more throttle to get it to accelerate, sharper angles to get it moving, and more room to get it to stop. It's just heavier.

You'll pretty much be doing fast circuits by the time you get to your third battery. The only thing that'll hold you back is the intimidation factor.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 11:20 AM
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My 450s are really more stable than the smaller heli an easier to fly once you get past the sound an bigger size. Should have switched much sooner. The smaller heli react faster but my 450 can move also. The big plus is the size is easier to see.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 02:12 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 08:51 PM
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I would get the 450x but I have been able to learn flips,
inverted hovers, and other 3d stunts with the nano cpx. I would try flipping because it is way easier than it looks and do it over grass so if you crash, it won't hurt it.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:04 PM
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I went from the mcpx to the 300x and it was pain free.
I run my 300x at 65% rates with 25% expo and its a pussy cat!
I now have a HK450 GT with RJX head and Tarot ZYX
I would say that the 300x is less intimidating than my 450.
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