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Old Apr 27, 2016, 08:23 AM
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Phoenix Models Stuka GP/EP ARF

Saw this on Tower Hobbies website today and thought it looked decent. I already have the stuff from my crashed Seagull P47 to go inside of it.

http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/pmm/pmma0380.html

Wingspan: 75.2 in (1910 mm), Wing Area: 936 in² (60.4 dm²), Wing Loading: 26.5 oz/ft² (81 g/dm²), Weight: 10.8-11.9 lb (4.9-5.4 kg), Length: 60 in (1522 mm), Requirements: 6+ channel radio with 9 standard servos, 2-stroke 1.20 or 4-stroke 1.40 glow engine or 20 cc gasoline engine or RimFire™ 1.20 outrunner brushless motor, 120-160A ESC, 5-6S 5500-6000mAh LiPo battery and charger, 4.8-6.0V 1200-2000mAh NiMH battery and Propeller
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Old Apr 27, 2016, 11:16 AM
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Looks exactly like the black horse stuka
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Old Apr 27, 2016, 01:13 PM
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did Black horse have the EP setup?
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Old Apr 27, 2016, 06:13 PM
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This model is covered here
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2636531
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yes, in glow...see no harm for a thread here for electric too
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I purchased one of these about a week ago. Not bad for the money. All wood construction.
One of the things that struck me as odd is the fact that the covering is essentially a printed sticker. The panel lines, inspection panels and some major rivet areas are on the covering. One thing I did find out, much to my horror, is that either CA or the kicker for CA removes the color from the covering. Luckily, I discovered this on the bottom of the wing, so hopefully a little airbrushing will make it virtually unnoticeable.
Plan on making mine electric (like all of my planes) with hopefully 6 cell power. Plenty of room in the cabin for batteries.
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I purchased one of these about a week ago. Not bad for the money. All wood construction.
One of the things that struck me as odd is the fact that the covering is essentially a printed sticker. The panel lines, inspection panels and some major rivet areas are on the covering. One thing I did find out, much to my horror, is that either CA or the kicker for CA removes the color from the covering. Luckily, I discovered this on the bottom of the wing, so hopefully a little airbrushing will make it virtually unnoticeable.
Plan on making mine electric (like all of my planes) with hopefully 6 cell power. Plenty of room in the cabin for batteries.
Nice!! I have Tacon power 60 (50-65-400kv) that I'd like to try on this bird if it's enough. I have all the servos, ESC, receiver, etc... Just kinda waiting on a report of the all up weight
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Old Jun 01, 2016, 10:00 PM
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Have you used the Tacon motors before? Wondering how they hold up. I was thinking about putting a Hyperion ZS4025-14 380Kv in it but not sure if it will be big enough. I have that setup in a slightly smaller Corsair and it works fine, but this bird will be a little heavier. Will have to do some testing tomorrow with props and my E-meter.
I would like to give Suppo a try, but need to find a good vendor (not the one in Colorado). I have been using Motrofly motors which are absolutely awesome, but the pricing has gotten up there so far that I am having a hard time justifying them.
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Yeah Iv used Tacon motors before and they work great! The more im reading on this plane the more im starting to think that a Eflite power 60 470kv would be the perfect fit.
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I use a Turnigy G110 295kv on 8s with either a 17x10 2 blade apc or 16x10x3 blade master airscrew and it flies great :
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Terminator. What ESC are you using?
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Old Jun 04, 2016, 05:54 PM
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Terminator. What ESC are you using?


Using Turnigy Sentilon V4 100A 5-12s HV Bulletproof Speed Controller w/RPM Sensor

with a HITEC SUPER SERVO S-BEC, REGULATES 3-14S LIPO TO 5.2 / 6 / 6.8 / 7.4/ 8.4 V

http://www.worldhobbies.com/product/...ref_cat_id=BMB


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...PM_Sensor.html
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Terminator. I am asking this as a relative newby and because I want to understand the reasoning and the process. Why did you select a 295kv motor as opposed to the 450kv that is recommended in the instruction manual ?
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Terminator. I am asking this as a relative newby and because I want to understand the reasoning and the process. Why did you select a 295kv motor as opposed to the 450kv that is recommended in the instruction manual ?
I will attempt to answer for him Lokigrac. If you go down in Kv, you usually can go up in voltage (cell count) to get the added RPM out of it. Lower RPM allows you to turn a larger propeller, which is more efficient.

So a 450Kv motor on 6 cell will give you about 9990 rpm (22.2 volts X 450). Terminator's setup yields 8732 RPM. BUT, the lower Kv can turn a larger prop and be less taxed than trying to turn a (also relatively large) prop at 9990 RPM.

Hope that makes some sense.
Also, I generally use 2 cell LiFe packs for the radio to eliminate the lipo and voltage regulator. Just use the LiFe pack. Easy peasy, but Terminator's setup works just fine too.
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Thanks, JurrasicJet. So the 295kv at 8s allows him to use the 17x10 2 blade or the 16x10 3 blade prop whereas using the 450kv motor would require the recommended 16x10 2 blade prop at 5-6s (or a 15x10 3 blade). And it also saves him quite a bit of money
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