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Old Feb 10, 2015, 12:19 PM
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Used Validol for someone new to DLG?

I'm sure this is opening a can of worms, but any thoughts would help.
I'm new to DLG, except for a few sessions with my Libelle, which I'm really enjoying. I got it as an entry level flyer. (and because I couldn't find a used Blaster 3).

A used (great condition), well built Validol has become available locally. Will need to decide quickly. There are some great local DLG pilots that are willing to help with my learning curve. Local competition is available if I ever get to that point.

My overall non-DLG taste usually goes more toward floaty more so than speed. That's one of the reasons I was interested in a Blaster 3. But with DLG I'm guessing that float vs speed is very relative.

I'm not a great thermaller now, but really want to get better. Seems like my current thermalling skills (with Radian) consist of luck and looking for vultures.

Any thoughts regarding a used Validol as an entry?
Other options are holding out for something else used -- maybe.
Building a new Blaster 3 or 3.5.

Of course I'm trying to find the "perfect" DLG for me rather than starting a collection.
Thanks
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 12:33 PM
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Ty,

I don't think you can find "the perfect" DLG for you, until you've tried a few!

I would get the Validol if I were you. It sounds like you have enough experience with other ships to know how to fly and launch. I'm sure the local seller will help you out with settings for the Validol.

Compared to a B3, the Validol will launch higher and have more legs-if you put the nose down, it can really move out. However, it still slows down quite readily with camber. I don't think it's THAT much faster than a B3. Just generally has a higher L/D so can cover more ground for the same altitude lost.
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 02:10 PM
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The Validol is a good ship. Very sturdy (solid core wing) and flys great. At 67 years lazy & not in shape I can get mine to 150 ft quite easily.

Go for it.

BP
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 02:22 PM
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Most importantly, The Validol is TOUGH AS NAILS!! its a very resilient bird. You'll love the performance as well!
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 02:33 PM
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More important than the Validol, is the support of local flyers who are willing to coach you along. The ship isn't important - the local support is critical.

Go for it!

Yours, Greg
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 02:49 PM
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Thanks for the advice!
The durability is definitely a plus.
I'll try to lock this purchase in.
Ty
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 04:39 PM
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Yep, do it! I got a Validol as my second DLG after the Libelle. The first time you throw it, you will be gob smacked and will probably let out a little squeal of delight.

EDIT: Oh, and I see you like floaty...the Validol and well probably any of the top end DLG's will float like a leaf as long as they're not built or ballasted too heavy. Very easy and forgiving type of plane to fly.

Just watch for orientation issues with these (usually) mostly black ships.
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 04:43 PM
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Love my Validol and yes it will be a great DLG for anyone.
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 04:53 PM
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Mine has the fluorescent green tips and tails, and is very easy to see at extreme heights and distances. And very easy to fly.

BP
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 04:54 PM
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Validol is a solid airplane. So is the Polaris.
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 11:18 PM
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Thanks again for the advice. This thread will be very handy when I explain the sound wisdom of a new glider purchase to my wife.
Silly lady probably thinks one without a motor would be less money than one with a motor.
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 11:47 AM
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What is the going price for a good condition DLG of the Validol flight quality range?
500 PNP?
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 12:47 PM
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Define good condition?

These airframes have the same wing as the Stream (which several very competitive fliers are taking to Worlds). They were ~$650 with the Kevlar wing and are $700 with the carbon wing for the bare airframe new. I would think one with an intact wing, fuselage and maybe some minor tail blemishes, plus a pro build, would still fetch $600+ for a PNP version.
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 02:53 PM
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Maybe I should have beat him up for another hundred dollars ... the price is $700. Part of the reason it feels like the right thing to do is that it should hold its value fairly well. And because of the build quality according to someone who's seen it.
Yes, minor stabilizer blemish is apparently the only damage.

But I don't have it yet. Haven't been able to connect in person.

The best news: I just found a city owned mowed floodplain area near work that I didn't know about. Clear flight area, quick to get to, 100 yards from parking, and just me and the occasional biker. Gonna be great.
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 04:11 PM
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I would say that $700 is a fair price...IF that minor blemish is just that (definitions vary), the electronics suite is good stuff and the build is done properly. I'm only saying that because these things are hard to come by right now. If they become as popular as other RC stuff, then you could expect a real hard time getting 50cents on your dollar regardless of condition.

If the plane is all it's said to be, you will be impressed!
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