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Old Feb 23, 2013, 11:44 AM
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I know that grasping the motor bell on Phantom is difficult due to the Phantom body.
I'd be careful squeezing the motor bell with those padded jaw pliers.
They appear to be giving you quite a mechanical advantage.
That could easily cause you to distort or warp the motor bell.
If you are keen on grasping the motor bell to prevent turning while you tighten props, I'd look into a small hook wrench that would engage one of the fins on the motor bell.
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 11:48 AM
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Man! That looks beautiful Zbip57! I am jealous! Wish I was there. Get some good footage while you are there.
I'm looking forward to uploading the videos. I've got a couple of good ones coming...

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Zbip57 - that looks awesome!! How scared were you to fly it over the water?
Terrified, at first. The wind was blowing quite strongly out to sea.

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Looks like a good time. remember, flying ATTI is typically smoother than GPS... I try to fly ATTI when pushing a shot, then flip to GPS and do HomeLock to get back.
I should have used ATTI mode more, but I was very nervous about the wind taking the Phantom away. I've still only flown this thing less than ten(?) times, but am slowly becoming more confident.
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 11:55 AM
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I know that grasping the motor bell on Phantom is difficult due to the Phantom body.
I'd be careful squeezing the motor bell with those padded jaw pliers.
They appear to be giving you quite a mechanical advantage.
That could easily cause you to distort or warp the motor bell.
If you are keen on grasping the motor bell to prevent turning while you tighten props, I'd look into a small hook wrench that would engage one of the fins on the motor bell.
It really takes very little pressure to hold the motor. The plastic is soft enough that it does a great job of hanging on to the motor. I guess if you gave it a gorilla squeeze you'd have some problems.
I have seen those hook wrenches but never knew what they were called or how you would use one. I don't think I would put one on my shinny new motor.
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 12:10 PM
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It really takes very little pressure to hold the motor. The plastic is soft enough that it does a great job of hanging on to the motor. I guess if you gave it a gorilla squeeze you'd have some problems.
I have seen those hook wrenches but never knew what they were called or how you would use one. I don't think I would put one on my shinny new motor.
You've got to be careful with any tool.
Me, I'd reach for a hook wrench before I put a squeeze on it with pliers.
The hook wrench used improperly could distort the motor bell also.
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 12:52 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:02 PM
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Hmm, when my Phantom is 300 yards out I can't discern prop colours anymore.

I was thinking of adding something highly reflective to the battery door.
Something metallic that reflects the sky or sun very well.
It should really "glare" at you...
DONT FLY what you can't see. It's in the AMA rules...

My Father started teaching me to fly at 11, I am now 53 and teaching my wife to fly these with the assist of the NAZA product line... Use the CL if you cannot get the hang of orientation. I use it for filming all the time. Use HL if you loose orientation until you can clearly see it's orientation.

Unless your flying FPV you shouldn't be flying outside of your visual capabilities that varies for everyone.
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:05 PM
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AMA rules don't apply in Netherlands
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:07 PM
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I know that grasping the motor bell on Phantom is difficult due to the Phantom body.
I'd be careful squeezing the motor bell with those padded jaw pliers.
They appear to be giving you quite a mechanical advantage.
That could easily cause you to distort or warp the motor bell.
If you are keen on grasping the motor bell to prevent turning while you tighten props, I'd look into a small hook wrench that would engage one of the fins on the motor bell.
I use the high friction rubber mats that you use to get the lids of jars.
1. You don't hurt your hands
2. You don't damage your Phantom
3. You probably won't over tighten the prop nuts.
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:17 PM
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Using the black DJI props on one end and the white on the other would probably be the best for that route,
That's what I am doing on my F450 along with landing gear tips and the arms. Black props are invisible once they start rotating.

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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:18 PM
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AMA rules don't apply in Netherlands
Legislation is very fuzzy here: de Dutch are very good at banning and forbidding things (just in case) and then tolerating it as long as no serious accidents happen.
Apparently the law is enforced here when things go wrong

Hobby fliers can fly in any meadow or park and nobody will bother you.
Professional fliers (aerial photography) wil have to buy a certified drone with fail safes and redundancy etc. And probably will need to get some sort of pilots license etc. etc. They are working on it and it is not looking good I think, but still a lot better than the proposed Oregon ban.
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:22 PM
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DONT FLY what you can't see. It's in the AMA rules...
Well, I can see the drone at 300 yard, but not the prop colours
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:22 PM
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A small tail flag is what some use. One of the small high intensity LEDs/strobes on the door would work as well, they are really easy to spot. HK carries them now for a few bucks and they are 5V so could tap into the power to the NAZA power on the gimbal channel perhaps with a servo lead.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._3_3_5_5V.html



Could even add 4, one on each arm to add to the existing LEDs perhaps.
The problem with the green LED is it is nearly identical in flash rate to the status LED.
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:28 PM
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I use the high friction rubber mats that you use to get the lids of jars.
1. You don't hurt your hands
2. You don't damage your Phantom
3. You probably won't over tighten the prop nuts.
With Phantom, I've just used the stock, DJI props, so I've not had the motor holding dilemma.
I think the posters are having trouble holding the motor with their hand.
If there's room to grasp the motor as you suggest, I'm for it.
On my other DJI multirotors, I use APC props and grip the motors with the friction mats you recommend.
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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:31 PM
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Orange color is best ....

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Old Feb 23, 2013, 01:31 PM
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I know that grasping the motor bell on Phantom is difficult due to the Phantom body.
I'd be careful squeezing the motor bell with those padded jaw pliers.
They appear to be giving you quite a mechanical advantage.
That could easily cause you to distort or warp the motor bell.
If you are keen on grasping the motor bell to prevent turning while you tighten props, I'd look into a small hook wrench that would engage one of the fins on the motor bell.
I normally use my hand strategically place around the can but I sometime use the surgical glove. Last time I had difficult time with the nuts with fangs, so I used the rubber strap wrench but just to remove not tighten. Now I am happy with my prop modification so I am abandoning the idea of custom can lock tool.
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