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Old Nov 01, 2012, 10:23 PM
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Need help to assembly my new Moonson sailboat

Hello everybody,
how are you?

I'm new here, and have just registered because i need some help to assembly my new sailboat... and have some doubts.
I have bought a sailboat Moonson 1,8 mts: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45319171/mooson/01.jpg

1: Why does this bar serve? What happens if i take it off?
(Image: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45319171/mooson/04.jpg )

2: Why the frontal mast has the cable going into a hole before being fixed? Can't i fix the cable directly at the first hole (like i show in the imagem)
(Image: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45319171/mo...ib%20boom2.jpg )

3: I could see that, there is a wire (eletric wire) inside the main mast... is that wire used to do the antenna to receive de signal of the controller? How should i link my receptor that is inside the boat, and the antenna?

Thanks very much.

att. Carlos
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Old Nov 01, 2012, 11:06 PM
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Hello everybody,
how are you?

I'm new here, and have just registered because i need some help to assembly my new sailboat... and have some doubts.
I have bought a sailboat Moonson 1,8 mts: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45319171/mooson/01.jpg

1: Why does this bar serve? What happens if i take it off?
(Image: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45319171/mooson/04.jpg )

That is called the boom vang. It holds down the boom when sailing away from the wind to stop the sail from twisting

2: Why the frontal mast has the cable going into a hole before being fixed? Can't i fix the cable directly at the first hole (like i show in the imagem)
(Image: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45319171/mo...ib%20boom2.jpg )

It is rigged that way to allow you to set the trim of the jib (the front sail) independent of the main sail trim

Thanks very much.

att. Carlos
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Old Nov 01, 2012, 11:15 PM
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Carlos, I'm no expert but I do have several sailboats so I will try to answer two of your questions.
1. That is part of the gooseneck and holds the main boom down to keep the sailshape when sailing with the wind at your back.Don't remove it
2. The line goes up from the hull at a near vertical to the boom, then goes to a attachment point on the boom with a booser in the line so that you can adjust the sails for different winds.
If you tie the line to the first point you will not be able to fine tune the sail.
3. I don't have a Mooson so I"m unable to answer your question about the wire in the mast.
Hope this helps you out. If you have any other questions just ask on here and i"m sure that someone will answer them for you.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 12:51 AM
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Thans everybody!
I'm going to buy the rasio system radio to install in my sailboat... my sailboat has already came with the servos.

but i saw 2 radio systems...
the first one says that works using 4 AA batteries...
the other says that works using 8 AA batteries...

Does both work with my sailboat? or i must see how many volts it works with???

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Old Nov 02, 2012, 01:01 AM
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I will put the link of the system radios:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...r_Mode_1_.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...2_Mode_2_.html

Does both work with the sailboat?
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 02:40 AM
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Thans everybody!

but i saw 2 radio systems...
the first one says that works using 4 AA batteries...
the other says that works using 8 AA batteries...

att.
Carlos
Both will work, they are talking about how many AA go into the the transmitter, its a personal thing.
I have used the the 6 Channel Hobby King many times the only problem with it is the programming, you need to use a computer and find the an easier progamme, greta thin with this radio is that you cane set the end points/servo travel.

Hope this helps

Mike
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 03:18 AM
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Both will work, they are talking about how many AA go into the the transmitter, its a personal thing.
I have used the the 6 Channel Hobby King many times the only problem with it is the programming, you need to use a computer and find the an easier progamme, greta thin with this radio is that you cane set the end points/servo travel.

Hope this helps

Mike
Hello Mike, how are you?

yes, it helps me a too much, thanks!

So, how many batteries go into the transmitter is independent of how many batteries go into de receptor, alright?
Do you have any idea how many volts i must use?

Since i don't have problems of weight, i will use 4 AA batteries... (i think it uses 4,5 to 6,0 volts).
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Hello Mike, how are you?

yes, it helps me a too much, thanks!

So, how many batteries go into the transmitter is independent of how many batteries go into de receptor, alright?
Do you have any idea how many volts i must use?

Since i don't have problems of weight, i will use 4 AA batteries... (i think it uses 4,5 to 6,0 volts).
4batteries minimum but 5 would be better if they are rechargeable do not exceed 6volts max as it may stuff the receiver
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 06:04 AM
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The transmitter takes what it takes to work and produce the signal. The receiver also takes what it takes to work. The two are separate and independent regarding power supply.
The boat itself will probably only need a 2 channel radio, any more is just empty slots, but the extra, unused, features might be useful on a later model.
If you do use 2.4GHz, you do not need an aerial up the mast. But I am not familiar with a Monsoon - if the mast is a two part one, a wire up the inside could be a way to keep the two parts together.
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 09:05 AM
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Thanks for every answer!

And about the battery, i have decided to work using a 6,0 Volts battery: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...iver_Pack.html

Does this charger works with this battery?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...40v_Input.html
What does "2S and 3S' mean?
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Thanks for every answer!

And about the battery, i have decided to work using a 6,0 Volts battery: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...iver_Pack.html

Does this charger works with this battery?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...40v_Input.html
What does "2S and 3S' mean?
Battery is ok but the charger is for a LiPo try this
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...cessories.html


And maybe this for a battery
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ver_Pack_.html
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 10:05 AM
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Thanks for your answer!

I'm very glad of every answer... them could help me to decide what to do.

So... i have just bought these parts:

1: Radio System
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=8338

2: Pack for 4 AA battery (to use with usual battery if i need - it's very cheap)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=16375

3: 6 Volts Battery:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=25030

4: The charger for the battery:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=7028

Thanks a lot everyone!

Now i'm waiting to receive everything and finish to assembly my boat!
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Old Nov 02, 2012, 10:27 AM
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Carlos, I'm no expert but I do have several sailboats so I will try to answer two of your questions.
1. That is part of the gooseneck and holds the main boom down to keep the sailshape when sailing with the wind at your back.Don't remove it
2. The line goes up from the hull at a near vertical to the boom, then goes to a attachment point on the boom with a booser in the line so that you can adjust the sails for different winds.
If you tie the line to the first point you will not be able to fine tune the sail.
3. I don't have a Mooson so I"m unable to answer your question about the wire in the mast.
Hope this helps you out. If you have any other questions just ask on here and i"m sure that someone will answer them for you.
Hi Hrcsailor, FYI, It is not the Gooseneck, it is the boom vang to control sail twist in the main sail. Gooseneck is on top of the mast to connect backstay. Regards
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Gooseneck is on top of the mast to connect backstay. Regards
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Not quite...the goose neck is the swivel that connects the main boom to the mast. The fitting at the top of the mast is called the masthead crane.

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Old Nov 02, 2012, 11:54 AM
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Welcome to the forum! Some very good answers here but I think I will explain a little more of what the boom vang and the jib bowsie are for. The main sail has to be adjusted due to the breeze blowing at the time of your sailing. You want some twist in your sail so that the point about 1/3 down from the top of the sail is parallel to the mainsail boom. This is accomplished by the tension you use on the mainsail bowsie to have some fullness in the bottom of the mainsail. Then you use the boom vang to loosen or tighten the leech of the mainsail to allow the top 1/3 to be parallel with the boom. Also the backstay adjustment can effect this so you must learn to use what is called the tuning circle (google it).

The bowsie on the jib is used to control the slot between the jib and the mainsail. A couple of inches of slot will get you started. Then adjust in small increments to egg out some more windward speed. I'm talking about adjusting the slot by 1/4" to see effects (measure time across a set course) on the speed. You'll soon learn how to tune your mainsail and jib based on the wind.
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