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Old Aug 29, 2006, 01:23 PM
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Logo 10 or 103D any good?

Hi all,

Is a Logo 10 any good? Are they well constructed (strong)? I'm not a 3D pilot so it would be for casual flying at some field.


thanks
Lane
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 01:46 PM
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Yes to both counts. you will like it.

you should also consider the trex-600. roughly the same price and very stable.
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 01:59 PM
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Can I use 10 cell NiMH's with a T-Rex 600?
I don't really like LiPo's right now. Not good for my stage of flying.
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 04:42 PM
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Can I use 10 cell NiMH's with a T-Rex 600?
I don't really like LiPo's right now. Not good for my stage of flying.
Nope. Not even close. 10 NiMh will barely fly a Logo 10; people really put 12 round cells in the L10. They are no where near enough for a T600.

Consider that the 6s packs being recommended for a T600 are going to be in the 16-17 volt range under load, are all in the 4200-4900 Mah range, thus being about 760 watt hours total energy and give 6-7 minutes.

A 10 cell NiMh pack will be about 10V under load - won't spin the rotor fast enough to lift off; while you didn't specify a MaH, the biggest NiMh available are in the 3500 area, so we have about 350 watt hours in the pack, meaning that if it could take off, it would fly for 2.5-3 minutes. Less because the pack is overstressed... but it won't lift off to begin with, so the duration is moot.

So, sorry, but "Nope."


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To your original question: You'll love the L10. Very, very nice bird. I have accumulated three of them over the last couple of years, one more or less stock and two "Extreme" with the 2:1 gearbox. More info at http://www.logoheli.com
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 06:23 PM
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An Eco 8 flys for 10 minutes on an 10 cell. I like mine, but they are not very popular anymore.
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Old Aug 29, 2006, 11:21 PM
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okay.. thanks for that Danel. Actually was informative - sincerely. My cells are 4000 MaH cells. I use 8 on the Corona and get 24-26 minutes per flight; mostly hovering.

Well, as long as I can use NiHM's I would be happy until I graduate to a LiPo

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Old Aug 30, 2006, 12:50 AM
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The 10 is a great heli if you upgrade it to the 3D. The stock 10 has bushings and plastic bits that, in my opinion, belong in the garbage, not on a heli.
LiPo is the way to go, no question, I run 8S, but I think most guys run 6s. Either way, 10 round cells will not do the job.
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 01:06 AM
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I recommend looking at a Century Swift. Century offers a low cost combo with a 12 cell Nimh pack. All you would need to upgrade later for 3D would be batteries (5-6s lipos) and CF blades, and the appropriate motor pinion. A lot lower cost, esp parts, than a Logo. I love mine!

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Old Aug 30, 2006, 01:12 PM
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I had very bad experience with my Century Hummingbird v3. I spent literally $900+ on parts trying to get that stupid thing to fly. Since then, I decided they have gotten enough of my money and won't get another cent for at least 10 Yrs. They'd have to give me a heli on credit and if it flew, then I would pay them. Since that isn't happening...
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 03:36 PM
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I have a hum V3 and it flies great, for what it is anyway. Hard to believe a guy could possible put +$900 into a $200 Artf heli. Anyway, we all get a bad taste in our mouths for some companies along the way. I this case it's usually best to stear clear of them, it's your money!

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Old Aug 30, 2006, 03:47 PM
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Really, I did put that much in to it. Every single day for about 2 months, give or take a day here and there, I was spending between 10-20 at the store for parts. It was most likely the ground-to-controller interface, but it still left me hating Century helis.

I paid about $280 for my ARF kit plus the 6-700 in parts. That was about a year ago.
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 03:50 PM
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I think I'll go for the new Logo 10 3D and Evo 7 for my winter project. Thanks for all the suggestions people. Much appreciated!

-Lane
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 05:48 PM
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LiPo are VERY nice for both duration and power.

If you really want to fly on 12x4000 NiMh, you can run 1800 headspeed and get maybe 7-8 minutes of gently hovering or cruising. Or, run 1950 with another pinion, get maybe 4-5 mins of good aerobatics. Difficult to set NiMh up for truly hard 3D (with any decent duration). You said "casual flying" so it may work for you.



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I have to politely push back on the person who said the plastic bits belong in the garbage. I've flown with the metal and the plastic in all kinds of positions on the L10. Never had one iota of problem with the plastic... I think the garbage comment is a bit overboard. I have 3 L10s and have helped set up a dozen others, so I feel qualified to comment. Anyway... the metal is nice in some places, like the swash, and the carbon tail box makes checking and adjusting the belt much easier. So, most of these parts are nicer... just saying the plastic will fly, and fly fine, for "casual" use.
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 06:33 PM
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I think I'll go for the new Logo 10 3D and Evo 7 for my winter project. Thanks for all the suggestions people. Much appreciated!

-Lane
Why not go emolis?
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 07:37 PM
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I asked a few times about what an emoli is and never got an answer. I don't or didn't really care enough at the time to go research it. What is an emolis? Is it better than a lipo? What about cost comparrison between a lipo and an emoli?

For all I know right now, an emoli IS a lipo
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