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Old Sep 27, 2012, 06:27 PM
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Would be nice if they also started making oleos for these since they are so robust. I'm interested to see what size wheels they can lift. I've also got a project in the works where they would need to retract backward. Interested in the different loads it can take. I know the E-flites are not warranted if installed to retract backward... only to the side. Odd but TRUE! J Morgan had that issue.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 07:08 PM
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I wonder what, or if, they are planning to allow a 'good' design version that is useful for nose wheel with steering? Where the mounting plate is at the other side of the retract.
This unit could not do that, as it is all one cast/pressed aluminium side plate(s).
But all it would need is a version with the other shaped side plates.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 07:44 PM
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Would be nice if they also started making oleos for these since they are so robust. I'm interested to see what size wheels they can lift. I've also got a project in the works where they would need to retract backward. Interested in the different loads it can take. I know the E-flites are not warranted if installed to retract backward... only to the side. Odd but TRUE! J Morgan had that issue.
Yep great idea. A nice set well priced oleo struts that match right up to the retracts. We end up having to mod too much stuff. A decent quality priced right complete setup would be the ticket....
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 07:50 PM
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I wonder what, or if, they are planning to allow a 'good' design version that is useful for nose wheel with steering? Where the mounting plate is at the other side of the retract.
This unit could not do that, as it is all one cast/pressed aluminium side plate(s).
But all it would need is a version with the other shaped side plates.
Yep this is another problem area. I have hundred flights on the FMS T 28 with PZ 514's, oleo struts and one of my biggest hurdle was getting a nose gear that would work when it was supposed to, be strong enough and wasn't a pain to setup the steering. I think I have a decent solution right that is holding up better partly because I disable steering after its in the up position with a mix.

They have to make something that works well on grass. Most of us fly off of grass. It can be tough on retracts and retracts are finicky as it is. I say out loud alot of times there just not worth it. But maybe they have something here ?
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 07:53 PM
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I wonder what will happen if FMS ever sells a 'perfect' plane. One where everything is just beyond improvement.

You guys would be bored out of your skull!! hahahaha. 'Nahh, not gonna buy this one, I don't like it, there's nothing wrong with it'.
It's a paradox.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 08:02 PM
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LOL!!! These threads and blogs would be a lot less interesting!
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 11:30 PM
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Retracts

Great thread! Just in time since the front gear on my T-28 is starting to loosen up and get a little sloppy due to our field having a grass runway.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 09:06 AM
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Any idea of timeline for these to actually be available?
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 06:40 PM
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I have two FMS 1400mm models, A V6 P-51 and a V1 Zero. Both models suffer from the plastic (they do have thin wire in them) struts on the landing gear. The struts are constantly bending from use on our rough grass field. Bent struts don't retract, or refuse to extend. The plastic can be bent back, but it will not take long before they break. I would love to be able to purchase metal struts for my planes to go with the metal retract unit. FMS please consider metal struts for your 1400mm models.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 06:48 PM
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I have two FMS 1400mm models, A V6 P-51 and a V1 Zero. Both models suffer from the plastic (they do have thin wire in them) struts on the landing gear. The struts are constantly bending from use on our rough grass field. Bent struts don't retract, or refuse to extend. The plastic can be bent back, but it will not take long before they break. I would love to be able to purchase metal struts for my planes to go with the metal retract unit. FMS please consider metal struts for your 1400mm models.
There is metal under the plastic struts, but it is soft Chinese steel. I wish they would use harder steel in the struts, because mine bend a little every time I land, and I fly off a hard surface.

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Old Sep 29, 2012, 01:33 PM
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Are they doing aluminum Twist and Turn retracts also? That would be great. When they do they should sweep 100 degrees for the desired forward rake. I had to replace my Hellcat twist and turns with eflites. Works great but if FMS does it we could be assured that the bolt pattern would match. I had to modify mine to fit them.
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Old Oct 02, 2012, 11:22 AM
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Do you have a weight compairason between the E-Flite and the new FMS units, andd how important is the 90 degree travel vs. 85 degrees that many say is needed for the p-51 ? Is there a way to just mount a wire with a spring coil into these units, or am i missing something as I am new to the retract thing.
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 12:08 PM
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Do you have a weight compairason between the E-Flite and the new FMS units, andd how important is the 90 degree travel vs. 85 degrees that many say is needed for the p-51 ? Is there a way to just mount a wire with a spring coil into these units, or am i missing something as I am new to the retract thing.
The FMS Alums. weigh the same as the E-Flites, 2.6 oz. This first version Alums. are 90. They will accept any 5mm strut. You can insert the coiled 5mm strut that comes with the E-Flite 60-120 E-Tracts, for instances, in them if you so choose.
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 02:26 PM
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Thank you, and also thanks for your research and postings.
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 05:50 PM
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How much weight are these rated for?
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