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Something like what you see in this thread;
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1797199 But built as a glider. Forget launching it with any sort of rubber band. Just trim it then hold it as high as you can over your head and push it out at the normal gliding speed. Assuming you can reach up to around 7 feet you should be able to achieve about 15 seconds. The other option is to build a rubber or hand launch glider. But then you'll need to learn to trim it well so it launches upward and transitions with next to no altitude loss. That's a tricky thing if you don't have time to do the trimming before the compeition. In fact it's pretty much impossible. With a 12 inch span limit you want LOTS of wing area to keep the loading down. And you will want to pick very light wood for the wings and tail. 1/16 x4 for the wings shaped to a crescent shaped leading edge and straight trailing edge and curved over a 1/8 camber rib at the root and mid span points will do the job. The leading and trailing edges should be sanded well back to keep the weight low. Tail surfaces can be made from 1/32 and sanded down to 1/64 and still be more than strong enough for a typical school gym flight pattern. If by some odd chance your gym is more around the 40 foot mark for the cieling the wings can then be done from light 3/32 instead of 1/16. Trimming is a whole other issue. We'll get to that once you iron down your building plan. There's simply no need to use any sort of plastic film on this model. It'll just end up complicating things and making the final model too heavy. For some other references google or bing or whatever for "low ceiling hand launch glider" and see what comes up. |
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Stamford, CT
Joined Oct 2000
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To avoid reinventing the wheel- here are some kits to get you started...
http://www.stevensaero.com/Free-Flight-p-1-c-30.html http://www.a2zcorp.us/store/category.asp?Cguid={E9A6AC0D-A7FC-4160-954B-BFAEBFA01739}&Category=ModelKitsByBrand:Sting%20Ae ro The other guy to look for is Stan Buddenbohm, but his stuff tends to be larger. Does someone want to try to explain why air molecules act differently in a model size versus full size? I'm sorry, but I don't buy this "air is stickier" argument- I think in these sizes it's probably got a lot more to do with skin drag versus frontal area...Molecules are really pretty small- relative to the size of a model wing versus full scale wing- the number of interactions with a surface has got to be pretty similar. Sam |
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United States, MA, Waltham
Joined Dec 2001
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If you're flying in helium under stp, you will have to go a WHOLE lot faster. Two or three times as fast, due to the lower density. However, it sounds like appa609 won't have to cope with that!
Suggest making the glider JUST heavy enough to almost get to the ceiling. So it's important to know the ceiling height and to do a bit of practice. Ideally, you put all the energy you have in the rubber into a glider which is light enough that it gets to just under the ceiling and levels out into a nice glide. At 12 inch span, you'll want the weight to be considerably under 10g unless you're in a blimp hangar or something. Probably, if your building skills are up to it, and you have some time to practice, a traditional indoor flapped clg will be best. If your skills aren't up to it, you could make an unflapped one. This kind of glider, with a 12 inch span, is known as a "standard" catapult glider to the indoor guys. If you go to this URL, you can download "Winning Indoor Designs", which has a couple of standard catapult gliders in it: http://indoornewsandviews.wordpress.com/downloads/ You will almost certainly find more in the various INAV issues available there for download. References to "category 1" or "category 2" sites refers to ceiling height. Trimming these little beasties is a whole other thing. There's probably a good article someplace, but I don't remember where. |
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Latest blog entry: pics from Winthrop, MA indoor flying...
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Joined Jan 2008
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http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1072383
Here is some reading on indoor hand launched gliders. Catapult launch design would be similar, I think. |
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