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Old Apr 10, 2010, 05:34 AM
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Finished my AMX today. Dons wicked 4800 in a wemo, Castle Ice lite 50, 4s 30c 1300 zippy, hs-55's, and an ar6110e. First flight tomorrow

AUW ? Whats that Ice Lite 50 weigh?
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Old Apr 10, 2010, 10:40 AM
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The ice lite weighs 1.7oz or 48g with full length wires. Dont have AUW, probably should invest in a scale.
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Old Apr 16, 2010, 09:21 AM
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Suppo will not work, they have a max rpm of about 42000 for 6 pole motor.

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Don, do you know if this esc will work? Its the stock esc from the phase 3 f-16. I plan to use your 4800kv motor on 4s with it. Also, when you do you expect to get more wemotec microfans in stock?

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Old Apr 17, 2010, 02:05 AM
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My first flight was unsuccesful, I had the balance too far back and the right wing broke off clean. Repaired and moved the pack 1" forward so the balance is at 20mm from leading edge. Had 3 succesful flights today. Jet is fast, I would say in the 80-90 mph range, and squirly. Overall fun but gets small fast and the controls are a little funny if your used to a jet with ailerons. Does land slow though
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Old Apr 17, 2010, 07:22 AM
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Don, do you know if this esc will work? Its the stock esc from the phase 3 f-16. I plan to use your 4800kv motor on 4s with it. Also, when you do you expect to get more wemotec microfans in stock?
Hard to say. The issues with ESC really shows up on 4S as that when the rpms get higher. The last resort it to test it, if the motor starts to skip at higher throttle settings then the ESC is not compatible. I will have more microfans mid to end of next week. they are on the way :-)

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Old Apr 17, 2010, 07:24 AM
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My first flight was unsuccesful, I had the balance too far back and the right wing broke off clean. Repaired and moved the pack 1" forward so the balance is at 20mm from leading edge. Had 3 succesful flights today. Jet is fast, I would say in the 80-90 mph range, and squirly. Overall fun but gets small fast and the controls are a little funny if your used to a jet with ailerons. Does land slow though

Which motor setup you running?

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Old Apr 17, 2010, 06:06 PM
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wicked 4800 in wemo micro, Ice 50 and 4s 30c 1300mah
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Old May 26, 2010, 12:57 PM
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Glad to see this thread! I have an AMX and F/A-18 that I have been fiddling with. Using different set ups than anything here.

AMX: I first tried the Wemotec 50mm fan with a 5200kv inrunner on 20c 3s 1000mah pack. Seemed to work fine but not spectacular. Flew reasonably fast but not what I was really expecting. So then I tried the 20c 4s 1000mah pack and that was way better! Much faster but it seemed like it could be better. So I took that out and tried a bigger fan. Now I have an Electrifly 56mm Fan with a 3800kv inrunner running on 20c 4s 1000mah pack. Much better!! Its very fast with unlimited climbing power now! I am using a 30amp esc and have had no issues to date...

F/A-18: So I have tried this jet with the stock fan only. Flew it many times on 20c 3s 1000mah pack and was ok with it. But then I tried a 20c 4s 1000mah pack and it totally woke the plane up! Really fast and unlimited vertical! But the weak stock unit blew up on me 2 times... So now I took out the stock unit and have put the Wemotec into it with the 5200kv inrunner. On the ground it seems like it will really make this thing perform! 3s seems to be good but 4s is amazing! Let's just hope it all goes well today....
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Old May 26, 2010, 09:42 PM
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I just got my shipment in of the new Wicked 6000KV motor for the Wemotec Micro Fan, here is the test data:

"Wicked Wemo Extremo" 6000KV motor: 350 watts 57,500 rpm on 3S

This will be a great upgrade to make your 50mm EDF jets scoot on 3S lipo!
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Old May 27, 2010, 07:17 AM
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I just got my shipment in of the new Wicked 6000KV motor for the Wemotec Micro Fan, here is the test data:

"Wicked Wemo Extremo" 6000KV motor: 350 watts 57,500 rpm on 3S

This will be a great upgrade to make your 50mm EDF jets scoot on 3S lipo!

That's awesome -- might have to try one of these. Don -- do you know if it will be faster or fast-as the 4s setups ?

I was thinking it could be pretty close -- while you're losing power, you're able to drop a considerable amount of weight at the same time.

What does the motor weigh? I haven't even figured that in --- but you should be able to get away with a quality 30-35amp ESC (30A Turnigy Sentry would hold up on 3s in my opinion), much lighter battery as well.

seems if you went 3s 1000 to 1300mah 30C --- you could come in around 375-400g AUW.

That's pretty solid --- on 4s 1600mah 30C i was flying at 505g AUW... I think the flight characteristics would improve dramatically while the speed fall off might not be too much at all.
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Old May 27, 2010, 09:00 AM
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I just got my shipment in of the new Wicked 6000KV motor for the Wemotec Micro Fan, here is the test data:

"Wicked Wemo Extremo" 6000KV motor: 350 watts 57,500 rpm on 3S

This will be a great upgrade to make your 50mm EDF jets scoot on 3S lipo!
I will have to try that!! I am happy with it now though! It is INSANE now! It has unlimited vertical now and just sounds so evil!! Like a screaming demon!

I will be getting the L-39 and F-35 so I think that I will try your Wicked Wemo Extremo in those. With 6000kv 3s is more than enough. Will that motor sustain 4s? That would really be crazy!! LOL
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I will have to try that!! I am happy with it now though! It is INSANE now! It has unlimited vertical now and just sounds so evil!! Like a screaming demon!

I will be getting the L-39 and F-35 so I think that I will try your Wicked Wemo Extremo in those. With 6000kv 3s is more than enough. Will that motor sustain 4s? That would really be crazy!! LOL
I don't like to say this much, but it fits here - OMG!!!! If you could pull off 4s with that 6000kv motor --- crap that would be Rediculously fast!!!

You have my vote --- test that thing on 4s successfully (even just on the bench) and I will buy a Wemo/Wicked6000 combo for certain!!! (cracked & ruined my wemo fan mounting plate, killed the F16 in crash(s)---- But I have a spare F16 airframe just sittin' here waiting)
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Old May 27, 2010, 09:24 AM
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This is information from don himself. he tested that 4s setup on the 6000kv motor and was getting around 700 watts at 49 amps. the only problem was he said it was taking 27c and at that that would drain a 4s 1800mah in about 2 mins. But That is the set up i am going to put in my f16 already have the motor just waiting on the 4s 1800mah batterys i need to put in it. If does not work out good the 4s 5400kv motor is great on 4s also on 50mm combo.
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Old May 27, 2010, 09:32 AM
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This is information from don himself. he tested that 4s setup on the 6000kv motor and was getting around 700 watts at 49 amps. the only problem was he said it was taking 27c and at that that would drain a 4s 1800mah in about 2 mins. But That is the set up i am going to put in my f16 already have the motor just waiting on the 4s 1800mah batterys i need to put in it. If does not work out good the 4s 5400kv motor is great on 4s also on 50mm combo.

sorry guys -- missed that on the back reading. Ok well that's great.. 2minute fly time on 1800mah 40C --- ugh... well -- hmm. That not gonna work out for the F16 --- just can't realistically fit the lipo in there.

Still though -- i may try this out on the 3s setup... something to be said for a jet that "floats" nicely.
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Those 2 mins would be a lot of fun!! You wouldn't want to fly anymore than that! I bet that thing must sound crazy!! With my current 4s setup I am getting a little over 3 mins and it is only a 4s 20c 1000mah. And yes this jet floats! But you need to get the ailerons to move more. And the jet flies more like the real thing as well!
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