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Old Mar 11, 2013, 01:56 AM
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X-UAV "Super Sky Surfer 2000" 79in. span powered glider

A new almost--giant foamie, that looks a lot like the BlitzRCworks 95" span Super Sky Surfer, but slightly smaller, with a number of apparent improvements.

Available (so far) from www.ReadyMadeRC.com .

Comes as a Plug-and-Play (PNP) for $159: http://www.readymaderc.com/store/ind...oducts_id=1307

...or as a Kit (Airframe only) for $99: http://www.readymaderc.com/store/ind...oducts_id=1308

Information from ReadyMadeRC's webpage:



Specifications from ReadyMadeRC's website:
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Another great option for RC and FPV flight!

The Super Skysurfer 2000 offers stable, high performance flight characteristics with an extremely efficient airframe design. Includes wheels under fuselage an on wingtips for rolling takeoffs and landings! Horizontal and vertical stabilizer are removable for easy transport.

Technical Details for PNP version (it's also available as an airframe-only "Kit"):

• Material: EPO
• Wingspan: 2000mm(78.74inch)
• WingArea:43.01㎡ (probably wrong decimal point? 43.01 d㎡ = 667 sq. in.)
•Wingload: 34.8g/㎡ (with flying weight listed below) (53oz over 667 sq.in. gives 11.44 pounds/sq.ft.)
• Flying Weight:1500g(53oz)
•Thrust Force:1300g(45.9oz) (stock power system)
• Motor: 3536 1000KV Brushless
• ESC:40A (linear BEC, we recommend a switchmode BEC for this number of servos)
• Servos: 4*17g servos
• Propeller: 9x4(Three blade)
• Battery: 11.1V ,3S 2200mAh-3300mAh recommended (not included)

Includes:
• Assembled fuselage and wings with pre-installed servos
• 1000kv brushless motor and 40A ESC
• Required linkage, servo hardware, and prop
• Basic Manual (RMRC advanced manual located HERE: http://www.readymaderc.com/store/man...2000MANUAL.pdf )

Requires:
• CA or epoxy for final assembly
• Your RC system
•5A UBEC recommended
•2200-3300mAh 3s lipo
•Model: SUPERSKYSURFER2000-PNP
•Shipping Weight: 8
•59 Units in Stock
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Old Mar 11, 2013, 01:56 AM
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Some of the nicer "standard" features of the Super Sky Surfer 2000:

1.) An internal plywood frame that supports the fuselage and wheel from the main wing spar.

2.) Elevator pushrod comes out thru tail cone, leaving much less unsupported length.

3.) A plastic-shell motor mount, sturdier than the direct-to-foam mount of the original SSS. It's larger than the standard motor, leaving lots of space around the motor... and providing room for a larger motor if you want to get adventurous.

4.) Real hinges on the control surfaces, better than the compressed-section-of-foam used in the original.

5.) Detachable tail, makes it easier to disassemble the plane for storage and transportation.

6.) Longer nose, lets the plane use a smaller, lighter battery without becoming tailheavy.

7.) Optional wing wheels for takeoffs/landings on pavement and smooth dirt.

8.) Ummm, no flaps?

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Motors:

Several posters have mentioned a motor from HobbyKing, that apparently bolts right in to the motor pod of the SSS with no modifications needed, in place of the original motor that came with the plane. It's probably a good idea to use at least a 60-Amp ESC with these Turnigy motors.

The Turnigy D3536/5 1450KV motor is 35mm in diameter (same as the stock motor that comes with the SSS ARF and RTF planes). I think several people have already used it on their planes, and written about it here. I believe that the cross-type aluminum mount it comes with, is identical to the one that comes with the SSS (is this correct?) .


$16.90 plus shipping from HobbyKing: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ner_Motor.html

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Another motor looks almost identical, same diameter but a little longer. More torque, so it turns a slightly larger propeller, a little slower, and has a slightly lower KV rating. Weighs one ounce more, max current and power are just a sliver higher. Hopefully this will bolt right into the SSS too. Has anyone tried this one? Does it bolt in with no modification to the motor pod? I've ordered one for the new 2000mm-span "Super Sky Surfer 2000" from ReadyMadeRC. Looks like it comes with the same motor mount and collet-type prop adapter as its near-twin, above.


$18.85 + ship from HobbyKing: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ner_Motor.html

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A 1000-Watt motor is shown below. This one is 44mm in diameter, larger than the ones above. With the SSS-2000's large motor pod, this one will probably fit too, though you may need to trim the cross-type motor mount that comes with this motor, and drill new holes in the plane's motor pod. It's a good idea to use 12ga motor wires for this one. The good news is, the plane will likely climb vertically with it, out of sight if you want, using a 5s LiPo battery and a 100A ESC. I put one of these in my original 2400mm-span SSS, and it also does all the majestic slow flying, long-duration cruising, etc. that the SSS is so good at.


http://www.headsuphobby.com/Emax-BL3...otor-A-274.htm
$39.95 from HeadsUpHobby (formerly HeadsUpRC) in Florida, including collet-type prop adapter, cross-type motor mount, and connectors.
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Old Mar 11, 2013, 02:07 AM
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A few apparent differences from the slightly-larger original Super Sky Surfer:

1.) Control surfaces still are attached with foam... but it has REAL hinges added at the same time.

2.) A plywood frame in the middle of the fuselage that mounts the wheel AND the main spar.

3.) Big, plastic-shell motor pod, not a foam one.

4.) "Optional" wing wheels.

5.) Does anybody see any flaps?

6.) Plastic servo-mount shells in the wings.

7.) Interesting wide-blade 3-blade 9x4 prop, looks like a cut-down 12" (or more) prop.

8.) Elevator pushrod comes out the tail cone, a LOT less unsupported length. I wonder if it's larger diameter wire?

9.) Honest-to-gawd detachable tail!

10.) Only one spar in the wing?

11.) It's not from Banana Hobby.
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I have just received a Sky Surfer 2000 Kit today. My kit has no provision for a wheel and comes with a 8 inch diameter 2 blade propeller of unknown pitch.The wing has flaps and includes cut outs for flap servos. The cut outs are for servos that are larger than my Hextronic HXT 900 9 gram servos. It also has has a clear canopy complete with an easily removable pilot figure.

Here are two photos I have taken this morning. These photos give an idea of the size of this model. The second photo compares the Sky Surer 2000 to my Bixler 2.

I purchased my Kit from http://www.rc4y.com/rc4y-new-fpv-epo...ane-p-501.html The cost was US $89.99 plus US $39.34 EMS postage.

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Kensp, great! I'm dying of curiosity to know some details. Interesting that your got it from rc4y instead of readymaderc. Can you tell me the wingspan, exactly?

From your pictures, it looks like it does have flaps after all... and doesn't have the plastic-shell motor pod I saw in the pictures from the manual for RMRC's plane. Does "no provisions for a wheel" mean there isn't a bulge in the bottom of the fuselage, with a slot in it, at all? Or that there is one, but no wheel was supplied to go into it?

Also noted in RMRC's plane, that that one's hatch was held on with a single magnet behind the "pilot's" head, installed by the buyer, rather than the two magnets by the "pilot's" shoulders that were factory-installed. How is your hatch held on?

Decals are different, too, from RMRC's. Close to Banana Hobby's decals, though not identical.

Yours seems almost like a hybrid between the old and the new. Or maybe RMRC's is a hybrid, and yours is the real "new one".

What's the wing span? And, does it have a small plywood frame in the fuselage center section, that the wing spar goes through?
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From what I can see, the RC4Y SSS is NOT the same plane as the RMRC SSS. There doesn't appear to be a separate motor pod, landing gear, etc. RMRC lists their kits as having been made by X-UAV, same as RC4Y.

Compare the specs:

RC4Y:

http://www.rc4y.com/rc4y-new-fpv-epo...ane-p-501.html

RMRC:

http://www.readymaderc.com/store/ind...oducts_id=1307

X-UAV:

http://www.x-uav.cn/product_view.asp?id=10

Also note that RC4Y is selling the 2400mm SSS, which, considering shipping, may be a better deal for non-US customers.

http://www.rc4y.com/super-skysurfer-...ems-p-523.html
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Kensp, great! I'm dying of curiosity to know some details. Interesting that your got it from rc4y instead of readymaderc. Can you tell me the wingspan, exactly?

From your pictures, it looks like it does have flaps after all... and doesn't have the plastic-shell motor pod I saw in the pictures from the manual for RMRC's plane. Does "no provisions for a wheel" mean there isn't a bulge in the bottom of the fuselage, with a slot in it, at all? Or that there is one, but no wheel was supplied to go into it?

Also noted in RMRC's plane, that that one's hatch was held on with a single magnet behind the "pilot's" head, installed by the buyer, rather than the two magnets by the "pilot's" shoulders that were factory-installed. How is your hatch held on?

Decals are different, too, from RMRC's. Close to Banana Hobby's decals, though not identical.

Yours seems almost like a hybrid between the old and the new. Or maybe RMRC's is a hybrid, and yours is the real "new one".

What's the wing span? And, does it have a small plywood frame in the fuselage center section, that the wing spar goes through?
On rereading previous posts I have come to the conclusion that my Sky Surfer 2000 is a quite different aircraft from the one featured in this thread. The fact that mine is a named Sky Surfer 2000 and the thread model is the named Super Sky Surfer 2000 is significant.

The measured span is 1.96 Meters This is equal to 77 inches.The wing area is around 47.75 Sq Dm. This equals approximately 740 sq in. Both these measurements are different from the Super Sky Surfer

The wing is joined by two Solid Black rods and I assume these are made from Carbon fiber. The longer rod is 10 mm in diameter and the shorter rear rod is 6 mm in diameter
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No provision for a wheel means that there is neither a hole in the under fuselage or any internal structure to mount a wheel. I am looking at installing a glider style single retractable wheel.

The canopy is held on by two sets of two magnets, one set each side of the pilot. It takes a strong pull to remove the canopy and the canopy positively snaps beck in place with a loud “Mind your fingers click”

Due to the differences in the two models I will be starting a separate Build Thread for the RC4Y: Sky Surfer 2000.

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I have opened a Build Thread dealing with the RC4Y sky Surfer 2000. Here is the link

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...5#post24394857

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I have opened a Build Thread dealing with the RC4Y sky Surfer 2000. Here is the link

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...5#post24394857

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Great. I subscribed.
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I have to wonder.

Did they shorten the wingspan of these new models, to make the shipping box short enough to ship overseas by standard postal service?
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I have to wonder.

Did they shorten the wingspan of these new models, to make the shipping box short enough to ship overseas by standard postal service?
The shipping box for my RC4Y Sky Surfer 2000 is small when one considers the size of the model. It easily fits into the rear seat of my small Mazda 121.It also has a dedicated molded foam inner section that exactly fits all components.

The advertised weight of the RC4Y Sky Surfer 2000 is 1300 grams and my weighing of the components shows that this weight will be easily achievable. The advertised weight for the Super Sky Surfer 2.4 is 2000 grams so the chances of the only difference being a cut down wing is not great.

Examining the photos from post No 2 shows that the tailplane mounting system is completely different on the RC4Y Sky Surfer 2000

There is no doubt that the size of the RC4Y Sky Surfer 2000 was chosen with postage regulations in mind but I do not think that it is just a cut down wing version of the Super Sky Surfer 2.4. It is quite possible that the RMRC:Super Sky Surfer 2000 is a cut down wing version of the Super Sky Surfer 2.4. I wonder just how any models there are that are called Sky Surfer 2000 or Super Sky Surfer 2000.

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BTW, has anybody gotten one of these ReadyMadeRC SSS-2000's (79" wingspan) yet? (Sorry, kensp, not your RC4Y version). The RMRC ones apparently come with a 9" propeller. How much clearance is there, between the prop tips and the fuselage below, when mounted on the standard motor?
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