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Old Dec 01, 2015, 10:19 AM
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Undelivered Airplanes

I regret to inform everyone that I am now homeless and without a penny to my name, I have no place to live or build.

EDIT: I've since found a spot to finish the planes that have been ordered.

Those of you who have submitted orders would be wise to go through PayPal purchase protection to recover their money which should land me in enough debt to feel comfortable lying down and dying in a ditch somewhere.

EDIT: I WILL be finishing and shipping out every plane that has been ordered, whether you request a refund or not.

Justin

EDIT: As of the 15th of January I am all caught up.
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Old Dec 01, 2015, 11:35 AM
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:-o no way!!! are u kiddin us?
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Old Dec 01, 2015, 12:00 PM
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IT'S NOSE HEAVY!!!!!!!
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Dang, i feel for you, as I've been borderline homeless for a year now myself...
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Old Dec 01, 2015, 01:56 PM
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Old Dec 01, 2015, 02:23 PM
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I'll be finishing everything on my list and sending them out to whoever ordered them if I can figure out a place to build. I have 20 sets of wings, fuses, and tails, and many partially completed airplanes (mostly for the Australians)

I was evicted because my room mate had a guest too long and I failed to inform the landlord, naively believing her when she told me she had already spoken to the landlord weeks prior. He had been there for 5 weeks and I was over it, as it was just a one bedroom apartment and not fit for three people. I asked him to find a place to stay before the 15th and he "informed me" that he would be staying until January. I let it go and tried to settle things peacefully, but eventually I was made uncomfortable in my own home and called the police to try and get the guy out. Since he was a guest there, they couldn't do anything as it was up to the land lord and lease agreement. So I called her and said "Look, this guy won't leave, so can you please evict them" - she called me back a couple days later and said that since it was the first time she had heard he was staying there (don't trust blonde women?) that we were both evicted and had to be out by the 4th.

Unlike Dave I'm not involved in the growing or distributing of marijuana and I don't believe anyone wants to show up at my door (or rather lack of door) with a gun just yet. I wonder if he would have made good on his promises, if he had the chance.

Sorry dudes
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Old Dec 02, 2015, 08:31 AM
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Of the 20 sets of parts, etc...(not including the Australian or other spoken for planes)....would there be complete plane kits possibly available ?
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Old Dec 02, 2015, 10:11 AM
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I need to check out what my carbon fiber stock is looking like but that's a definite possibility. I can build 16 more planes with what I have when I finish.


UPDATE: A friend is allowing me to use his shop during the daytime to finish the orders I already have. I'll try to get these out asap
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Old Dec 05, 2015, 02:12 AM
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Life of an artist.

I kaknow it well.

Rooting for you!
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Old Dec 05, 2015, 03:48 PM
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Old Dec 07, 2015, 04:33 AM
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Was quoted 2-4 week build and its 12 weeks now, you failed before I saw this thread. I have taken your advice and put in my PayPal claim.
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Old Dec 07, 2015, 11:25 AM
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gazasmith,

I'm not sure which plane you ordered but I'd be more than happy to send you my red, black and white Buzz Evo. I'd have to take it apart to ship it though.

PM me if you have any questions?

Cheers,
Fred
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Old Dec 07, 2015, 01:44 PM
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I'll be sending Gary his plane anyway, along with the other planes in the group buy. It has been too long of a wait, and he deserves a new plane.
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Old Dec 07, 2015, 03:33 PM
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I have found selling kits before they are made is always a problem for me.

I only sell what I have made and make no promises.

Sorry your planes are so popular!

Maybe don't post so many awesome videos of how they fly better than anything else in their catagory !
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Old Dec 07, 2015, 06:19 PM
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It's easy to bite off more that you can chew. I got into similar trouble when I was *trying* to run my one-man woodworking shop. And it's a shty feeling knowing you've let people down. I hope things come back around for you man!

And I agree with those that have said don't take orders, build inventory and sell what's on hand.

It's almost snowboard season!
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Old Dec 07, 2015, 06:55 PM
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Got 3 fuses cut out, beveled, sanded, and sparred, 3 wings joined and sparred, 3 sets of tails, 3 rudders, and covered a plane today. I can only work from 8-3:30 so I am trying to make the most of my time while I'm there.

Australian group is nearly finished, and will be sent out whether refunds are had or not.

I'll be focusing on building inventory and selling what I have on hand from now on rather than accepting payment in advance, a foolish decision brought about by my already awful ability to handle finances, chronic severe depression and chasing floosies. Combined with a rising demand, and inexperience handling business in general - I've managed to drop the ball over the past few months and I am really sorry.

I will finish these planes, and more, my heart is in this not because I would make people angry but because I would be horribly angry with myself if I were to give up, and self destruct. I don't have any distractions for the foreseeable future as once I'm finished working at my friends shop during the day I am living out of my car, and sleeping at a train station.

For now I have an all red on the top and white on bottom receiver ready buzz that a buyer backed out on due to time issues (and has since been refunded) that is available, either to be sold or if someone would like can be sent in place of the color scheme they ordered. It's set up, tuned, and ready to fly if local pick up is desired. I can also drive to meet you.
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