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Old Jun 16, 2014, 04:00 AM
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Progressive Pope (No not that type of Progressive)

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Not sure this is too meaningful to Athiests, as we don't have belief in the concept.

The thought is there though

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I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.

“Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 04:50 AM
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This Pope is is slowly waking up to how the Roman Catholic church and Christianity in general just maybe got things a bit wrong over the Millenea!

This Pope, despite his position and background, seems to be recognizing that spirituality and goodness comes in many forms!
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 06:04 AM
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It'll be interesting to see the "only the sheep"response to this.
I think what he recognises is that numbers are falling,maybe some atheist bums on seats will help.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 06:11 AM
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This pope has had my attention since he took over. He's done more to change people's outlooks on Catholicism and religion in general than any pope or religious leader in my lifetime.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 07:23 AM
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This pope has had my attention since he took over. He's done more to change people's outlooks on Catholicism and religion in general than any pope or religious leader in my lifetime.

You must be fairly young. Pope John Paul II was immensely popular and had a significant impact on the church.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 07:27 AM
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John Paul II (sounds like he should've been a Jazz Singer...) was very popular but ONLY with his flock of Roman Catholics

This guy is across the board - even non religious types like me recgonize he's a force for good - John Paul II merely wanted us all to be good Christians
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 07:38 AM
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No question that this Pope is different. I've enjoyed his leadership thus far. My daughter was in St Peter's Square for his white smoke.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 07:39 AM
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Lucky girl - Italy is my favourite country
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 07:43 AM
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Same here. Rome is my favorite city in the world.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 07:50 AM
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Same here. Rome is my favorite city in the world.
Genoa is lovely - the Dolomites and Lake Garda are unbelievably stunningly beautiful - Garda looks like a fantasy art project
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 08:58 AM
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You must be fairly young. Pope John Paul II was immensely popular and had a significant impact on the church.
What in my posts indicated I was fairly young?

John Paul II promised much in the reform department and was supposed to bring the hierarchy more in line with the common people. In the end, he was less of a reformist and preached the sanctity of tradition over change.

Field Marshall Ratzinger was an even greater disappointment in this area of change.

This new pope took the world by storm from his very first day, and promises to be the leader the Catholic church sorely needs if it hopes to come into line with today's world.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 09:05 AM
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 09:12 AM
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This new pope took the world by storm from his very first day, and promises to be the leader the Catholic church sorely needs if it hopes to come into line with today's world.

It isn't the Catholic Church's job to come in to line with today's world. If you don't subscribe to catholic beliefs, don't join the church. It's been around for some time and always will be.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 09:13 AM
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It isn't the Catholic Church's job to come in to line with today's world. If you don't subscribe to catholic beliefs, don't join the church. It's been around for some time and always will be.
America, love it or leave it - all over again.
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Old Jun 16, 2014, 09:21 AM
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Catholicism is voluntary. You're comparing apples to oranges. If you don't believe in Catholicism, try a different religion. Or none. Your choice. There are around 1.2 billion Catholics. The Church is continuing to grow, more so in Africa.
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