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Old Nov 18, 2003, 07:02 PM
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Me P. 1101's for Christmas

If there's anyone thinking about an ME before the holidays it's better to order now.

It takes a day to lay one up, so as they say do the math.

Lots of people including myself have been flying this plane with great success.

IMO it's one of the best flying EDFs I've flown. Not a handful, smooth and predictable. It has lots of power options and can handle a 39 oz. to 68 oz. AUW.

Survives well in a crash, its a tuff little bird.
An easy build too.

You can also place fixed gear on this plane.

The ROG is just great.

Here's the website:

http://sneill.com/stevejets/

and a flight video of Herb's then 58 oz. beast. Now he's up to 68 oz. and still flying great.

http://sneill.com/ME1101/video2.wmv

Thanks guys,

Steve
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 07:53 PM
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68 oz. - dang! That's bigger than Elvis! What's the wing area on this guy, Steve?


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Old Nov 18, 2003, 08:11 PM
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Stu,

About 240 sq. inches. It's a big plane though compared to most MF 480 sized birds.

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Old Nov 18, 2003, 08:15 PM
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Me P. 1101 weight

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... Herb's then 61 oz. beast. Now he's up to 68 oz. and still flying great ...
... That's just the difference in weight between a 12-cell CP 1700 pack and a 12-cell GP 3300 pack ... The latter flies about twice as long as the former, with same or better flight performance due to the increased power ca. 700+ Watts.

(The empty airframe is - as before - about 41 oz, 3/4 oz fiberglassed wings, twin carbon spars, ply battery holder, completely 3/4 oz fiberglassed tail surfaces, HW-609 fan, Plettenberg HP 920-4 lawnmower motor ... ).
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 08:16 PM
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Cool, thanks Steve. My F104's got 220 sqin, so I guess it should rock at 40oz or so!

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Old Nov 18, 2003, 08:43 PM
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Re: Me P. 1101 weight

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HW-609 fan Plettenberg HP 920-4 lawnmower motor ... ).
Herb,
Brushed motor?
I still have a new 930-6. Was the motor to have for the Midi before brushless stole the show. They're a bit heavy, but still worth using?

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Old Nov 18, 2003, 08:59 PM
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Why not? As you say they are a bit heavy but indestructible ... The brushes never wear out either as far as I know, had mine for 3 years... Their efficiencies are very good, a few (4-7%) percentages below good brushless motors. 79% or so vs 83% for 1409/2y?

If you bungee the thing a couple of oz more makes really no difference. Of course it's better to have a controller for it, because dishing out another $100 or so on a brushed controller does not make a whole lot of sense nowadays....
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 09:00 PM
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WOW herb, i never knew you suck a 609 in there, your wing loading must be insane !!!!!
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 09:14 PM
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Not at all, it flies just fine... Doug actually commented when he flew mine he thought the heavier more powerful HW-609 tracked better than the MF one. In any case look at both videos, and let me know what you think ... Lighter is of course always better, but more power is usually at the expense of lightness.

I have both videos linked here:

http://rcgroups.com/gallery/showphot...cat=500&page=1

Of course handlaunch is out of the question on the higher wingloadings.
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 09:55 PM
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Here's a size comparison with the Steve Toschi / K&A MiG-15.

The latter has been flown on a MF 480, HW-609, 90 mm Jepe Spiderfan, MidiFan, SteveCFan, ... so I don't know whether to call it a "MF480" model or what ... It's a matter of taste.

All I can say is that in there (Me-P1101) there's plenty of space for large batts and large fans.
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 09:58 PM
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I'm bias but for me this plane is mandatory in my stable! And I can vouch for it's resilience.


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Old Nov 20, 2003, 12:16 AM
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Thanks Herb and Barry.

Barry I have to agree.

I'm really pleased the way it flies. I think Will and his Dad did a great job on the design. It translated well to an FG kit plane.

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Old Nov 20, 2003, 03:22 AM
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Those Germans are clever buggers, aren't they ! It is a cool looking plane, just may have to bring one back with me after my 2004 USA trip!

BTW, Steve, how 'bout a pic of you (or better, a super model!) holding it so we can get an apprecitation of it's size?

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Old Nov 20, 2003, 03:28 AM
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Stu,

Here you go.

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Old Nov 20, 2003, 03:34 AM
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Cool Steve! Lots of supermodels there!
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