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Old Nov 30, 2008, 02:57 PM
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What's A Good "Starter" Jet?

I'm looking to get a turbine jet. I've heard that the Baby Boomerang and Falcon 120 type jets are good starters. But - no offense intended here - as hard as I try, I just can't warm up to the twin-boom design. Plus, especially with the Baby Boomerang, I can't help but wonder after a while if I would "outgrow" it, so to speak.

So, my question is would a jet like the Flash be acceptable as a starter? How about an L-39, or a BAE Hawk? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old Nov 30, 2008, 08:15 PM
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Reaction 54, F9F Panther, Turbinator and a F-15 are a few that come to mind.
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Old Nov 30, 2008, 09:02 PM
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Interesting. I'd have thought the F-15 would be too advanced. What about an L-39? I was also considering a BAE hawk, but I've heard they have some nasty characteristics.
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Old Nov 30, 2008, 09:17 PM
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Keep the F-15 light and it flies nice and stable. Most of the hawks have a pretty high wing loading and will tip stall.
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Old Dec 01, 2008, 08:13 AM
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Thanks. Yeah, that's what I've heard, the Hawk can get nasty on the approach turn if you aren't careful.

One of the guys in the club was saying he was getting an F-15 as his first turbine, which to me was counter-intuitive. But, it seems like folks with experience are saying it is a good choice. Any recommendations on who makes a good F-15 kit?
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Old Dec 01, 2008, 05:28 PM
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Everyone says the Yellow F-15 is about the best. Maybe not exactly scale but one of the easiest to fly.
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Old Dec 01, 2008, 05:49 PM
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Ok. That's the same model one of the buds in the club is getting for his first turbine. I'll take a look.

I was also looking at the Fei Bao Velox.
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Old Dec 02, 2008, 12:47 AM
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Fly Eagle Jets has a nice looking F-15 in various color schemes. It comes with just about everything you need at a good price. Instruction manual isn't much but since its an arf most of the hard work is already done.
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Old Dec 02, 2008, 03:27 PM
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Most who fly F-15s will tell you that they are as easy to fly as a trainer
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Old Dec 03, 2008, 10:55 PM
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What about the non scale?

I was thinking of the Bob Cat or King Cat as a first jet.
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Old Dec 04, 2008, 02:30 AM
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Falcon 120 with a P60 or Wren 54
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Old Jan 18, 2009, 01:30 AM
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What about the Cermark F16?, I am in the process of getting one of these as my first turbine.

I got an advice from some friends that have owned the Cermark F16 and they say it is a good entry level turbine jet as its design allows easy and slow predictable high nose landings avoiding tip stalling. Tam jets F 16 has the same design.

It is a cheap kit, just 1300 usd with retracts (not scale but nice), pipe, etc and painted.

So, what do you think?

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Old Jan 18, 2009, 10:57 AM
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something that is a delta or lifting body would be ok like a rafale if you want a warbird
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Old Jan 24, 2009, 10:40 AM
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Just my two cents:

It's tough to outgrow a turbine jet as long as it has retracts, a decent speed range, and good handling. When you move up to your second jet, it will be easier to get used to the operation of a higher wing loading scale type without drama or undue risk to your work having that experience under your belt. Also, if you get out of flying for the winter or a season you can start back up on the trainer jet to get your feet wet, then on the third flight back, whip out the nice scale job. It gives you options and also redundancy at the field later on.

I have a Reaction 54 that I was concerned about not having enough "juice" to keep me entertained once I got used to the turbine RC jet ops. In opposition of that idea, the reality is I now also have a very well flying "second" jet that I can strap together and fly with confidence if the weather or flying site is not ideal. Starting out simple can be a two pronged approach - the first for getting started and the second for having an airworthy and "old reliable" turbine in the fleet for use at all times, even when the finicky scale job is getting repaired or saved to fly another day.
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Old Jan 25, 2009, 10:54 PM
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R-54's sure do fly nice
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