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Old Sep 18, 2009, 02:18 PM
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Rhino ... some basics

OK guys ... after several of you try to discover Rhino for modelling - I thought I could
eventually post some pics about my general strategy to create a plane using Rhino

1 Importing the views into the windows.

2 Adapting the imported pics to the origin ( nosetip)

3 scaling the pics to same scale
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Old Sep 18, 2009, 03:25 PM
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4 Copy the relevant lines of the background images to CAD ( SPLINE)

5 Extrude the relevant lines in two windows and intersect them to get a 3D spline out of intersection of 2 2D SPLINES
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Old Sep 18, 2009, 03:26 PM
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6 create surface seams and control splines using intersecting surface
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7 Now sequencially mesh the skeleton ... apply to areas where either just open or just closed splines in one direction of control Splines!
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Old Sep 19, 2009, 01:59 AM
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Hey I like this. please keep it coming
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Old Sep 19, 2009, 02:09 AM
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@roger : it is just to show about the strategy... I guess I will proceed in paralle with my FW190 1:48 Scale what ever comes first....
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Old Sep 19, 2009, 02:26 AM
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could you let us have the image so i can flow along i use acad but would like to do sum solid molding

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OK guys ... after several of you try to discover Rhino for modelling - I thought I could
eventually post some pics about my general strategy to create a plane using Rhino

1 Importing the views into the windows.

2 Adapting the imported pics to the origin ( nosetip)

3 scaling the pics to same scale
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Old Sep 20, 2009, 11:50 AM
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My favourite source for blueprint and drawing...

http://www.airwar.ru/other/drawe.html

Help yourself!! Would be interesting how you would do this plane in solid style....!
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Old Sep 21, 2009, 02:02 AM
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i have had a look can only find the GOOSE MALLARD but they are not the same as your drawing


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Old Sep 21, 2009, 11:25 AM
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Try this one ..http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/do24t.html
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thanks i like the look of it i am going to trace around it in autocad as it will be quicker for me and dxf it in to Rhino and have a go at it from the 3d model end in stead of 2 and haft in acad. but will need help never used rhino before can start a new thread or is it OK to post her

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Old Sep 22, 2009, 10:52 AM
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Perhaps a new thread would be ok!

Another thing... I organized a Rhino workshop several years before in micro modellers forum ... perhaps you would like to go through the tutorial ....

...you would not have to save as you work through one unit in a whole task
as the needed result is alsways included for the next step ... so you could safe your 20 saves for own design .. just send me your email and you'll get the tutorial... I'm not able to create a second one here, for this
screenshots are just a kind of hint.. to those who already been busy with Rhino... kind of possible strategy guideline!!

... have another tutorial running at full speed!

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1092682

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Perhaps a new thread would be ok!

Another thing... I organized a Rhino workshop several years before in micro modellers forum ... perhaps you would like to go through the tutorial ....

...you would not have to save as you work through one unit in a whole task
as the needed result is alsways included for the next step ... so you could safe your 20 saves for own design .. just send me your email and you'll get the tutorial... I'm not able to create a second one here, for this
screenshots are just a kind of hint.. to those who already been busy with Rhino... kind of possible strategy guideline!!

... have another tutorial running at full speed!

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1092682

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I wouldnt mind a copy of that tutorial roger_2525@yahoo.com
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Geting stringers 'right'

I thought I'd post this technique for developing stringers and formers in a fuselage.

Given you have modeled the flat outer surface - in my case I lofted it from carefully constructed cross sections plus a bit of fiddling around, but sweeping often works better, (One tries them all) the next step is to generate stringers.

In my case I needed to model 4 stringers between the spine and horizontal.

First step is to construct a plane surface that represents where the top spine stringer will go..

Then rotate and copy that about the approximate center of the model to get the stringers beautifully spaced out radially.

Intersect and develop the curves that represent the outside of the stringers..

Now draw the wood cross section and align with the start of the curves, and rotate and copy all cross sections into place.

Then multiple Sweep1's and caps generate the nice aligned curved stringers!!

Which can be used to notch the formers when you have them made up..but thats another story.
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getting sheeting and inset formers right.

Given that you have developed a solid model of the finished thing, and now you want to either inset formers so that they wont touch the covering, or inset them under sheeting, the task you have to address is to construct a surface or a solid that is offset by - say 1/16" inch inside your finished shape.

Rhino tries hard, but its best to give it simple things to do. Very complex shapes (as in this case with the gun channels) gives it headaches, lots of computing CPU time, and a final result that is full of unexpected bits shooting off wildly: Probably the key point is, don't try and offset a surface from one with sharp corners.

In the case of this particular fuselage shape, the key is to explode the solid into all its surfaces, and delete the odd ball bits, then join the bits that you do want together.

THEN and only then, you can offset the surface and produce a 1/16" thick 'shell' which can be used to slice the formers up and get their shape right, and, indeed, develop sheeting finally if that's what is required.

I redid this in about 20 minutes. It took me several days to understand the best way to do it..
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