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Old Mar 23, 2014, 07:28 PM
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sir, if you take it to the extreme level of flying, then let's agree that you can "fly out of updraft", but it's definitely not the way most pilots take Fixed pitch heli flyers, yes if they are in trouble and have enough skill, they will make the move, but on collective pitch, you just go into negative.

if the wind is really bad where it rolls you over in a gust, you probably won't be flying.
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Old Mar 23, 2014, 11:24 PM
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When a gust hits negative pitch is often the opposite of what you want. The gust ends with the helicopter dropping like a rock.
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 12:29 AM
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Can you fly a CP with no Neg pitch? Would it help a CP beginner? Or you don't want to do heli aerobatics?

Thanks!!
Instead of bickering, which does not belong in the Beginner Training Area at all ...

I'm going to point OP to a useful thread he may or may not be familiar with:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1901484

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First - and most importantly - get rid of all that negative pitch. -2 degrees (-2) is all you need in the beginning - and this is to insure you can get back down on the ground and glue you to the ground if there is any wind.

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Your pitch curve will be -2, 0, 3, 5, 8.

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Now you are controlling altitude with pitch and not head speed. This will give you far smoother control of maintaining your height - just like a full scale helicopter.

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Note: At any time you want to shut off the engine - try to avoid slamming the collective down - this negative pitch will pull the heli into the ground. Condition your finger or thumb or big toe (whichever works for you) to switch ON throttle-hold or throttle-cut when you panic. This will maintain your positive pitch on the blades and help eliminate the pan-cake effect.

captJac
Thank you again CaptJac. Please refer comments and criticisms to him. Works for me in the sim at least.

Also do not ignore:

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You can, but it just cripples handling with no real benefit. If you just set negative pitch to 2 or 3 you won't come down real hard and you learn quickly not to do that.
Thank you again Balr14. Please refer comments and criticisms to him. Works for me in the sim at least.

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Old Mar 24, 2014, 02:52 PM
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Its a bad idea to plant a helicopter on the ground with negative pitch. Your just asking to break it. Especially if it has a flybarless controller.
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and this is to insure you can get back down on the ground and glue you to the ground if there is any wind.
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 08:33 PM
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Its a bad idea to plant a helicopter on the ground with negative pitch. Your just asking to break it. Especially if it has a flybarless controller.
Well, quite a few of us do it to no ill effect, just saying.

Ever tried landing a 450 in 30-40 km/h winds with random gusts?

Winds like that ground planks, but not us.
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 11:32 PM
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30-40 km/h winds are fairly common around here. So I land a 450 in that kind of wind most of the times I fly.
I fly my planks in that kind of wind also.
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Old Mar 25, 2014, 05:41 PM
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With all do respect to real helicopter pilot's, us nube's don't fly much in the wind. At least I can't. I do understand that -2 or-3 is needed............just a little sarcasm to lighten things up.
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