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Old Oct 09, 2012, 01:43 PM
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Thanks Chris and Subaru, now I've got some place to start. I'm not on a budget. I have a couple of DX6i's and some spektrum and orange Rx's waiting to be used. So those motors will pull a large quad? As for the flight control board I saw 2 of them listed in here somewhere. The v2.1 I think was one of them and the other was the KK 2 board. Which board is really the easiest to use for a begainner? No planning, programming stuff. Just plug and play. Thanks again guys.

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9" props with a 3s?
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 01:49 PM
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Found this. KK board. What is simonk firmware for?
http://www.valuehobby.com/multicopte...rol-board.html
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 01:54 PM
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The KK2 flight controller is the one with the LCD screen and can be tuned the easiest.

The board you linked will need to be programmed and flashed using your PC.


SimonK Firmware is for ESC's. It replaces stock firmware and is tailored more for multirotor use.
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 01:58 PM
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HK KK2 ( 1.2 fw ) has been mostly plug and play for me.
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 02:29 PM
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HK KK2 ( 1.2 fw ) has been mostly plug and play for me.
Then thats what I want. I like plug and play. Once I get the hang of it then I can try higher degree of difficulty. Start off easy. So HK has the KK2 board and the esc's, and the motors. I think I saw the power board there too. The one the + and - leads from the esc's are soldered to. AAH the shopping is getting somewhere now. I see quad taking shape. I'll use one of my DX6i's and Spektrum or Orange Rx's. I have an assortment of carbon tube and aluminum. The frame should be no problem. I'll put my list together again and see what it looks like. Thanks.

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These are supposed to be some great motors for Quadcopters:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=17345

Also I would not be afraid to try these ESC's:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._ESC_2_4S.html

If you can solder, a power distribution board is a waste of $$$ You can achieve the same by just creating a wiring harness. This is my harness:


I just took two strands of wire, and stripped about an inch of insulation away from the center. Then I untwisted both and made the exposed wire flat. Then stacked the two flattened wires ontop of eachother, and twisted them together, along with an extra lead for auxiliary power. This was for my Tricopter, so I only needed Power IN & 3 motor outputs. Then solder it all together and cover with shrink-tube. I did this twice, once for a positive and again for the negative.
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 02:41 PM
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Yep I can solder. Made my own solar panels. Got the parts off ebay. The power board is pretty cheap.
Motor: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ess_Motor.html
ESC: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._ESC_2_4S.html
KK2 Board:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...trol_Board.htm
Power board: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ion_Board.html
Plugs : http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...0pcs_set_.html
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I probably would have gone with a 25 or 30a ESC with those motors. But thats fine, just be easy on them and dont use a large prop and you should be safe.

Now's time to start building your frame
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 02:59 PM
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I can go with a higher amp esc. Not a problem. With these parts I won't have to flash or program or swizzle stick or what ever. Just plug and fly?

Tom

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Just finished reading all the posts in this thread and watching all the videos. First I'd like to say thank you to Chris for making and sharing those video with us. I think they are wonderful. Well made and VERY informative. I plan to watch them again just to make sure I haven't missed anything. Also thank you all for helping me pick out my parts list. I still need to pick out the props. I'll redo my list and post it to make sure I'm going in the right direction. Thanks again all.

Tom
This place has a lot of the components but I don't know which ones substitute for the HK parts. I've had good service with HK but it takes almost a month some times for shipping. You guys are the pros so if you think I should just wait it out and go with HK then I will. http://www.valuehobby.com/multicopte...rol-board.html
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 06:33 PM
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Well heres my new list. All the bits except props. It says to use a 7x4 prop for a 3s but I couldn't even find those in the HK multi copter section. Also it says to use a 40A esc? You folks think this is what I need for my first time? Please be gentle. Oh yeah, keep it under $400.
Tom

The link didn't work so I deleted it. The list is the same as the one post # 52 except I'm going with 30A esc's.
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I would shop around for another motor. 1400kv is a little high. In general the higher the Kv the smaller the prop. I bought some Emax 2822 motors for $7 a piece and they run nice and cool with 8" props. I am a very aggressive pilot and these motors can keep up with my demand, i would like a little more lift but I think I can achieve that with a lighter frame. HK has a knock off of these motors, or maybe the same motor just rebranded.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=5354
Here is where I got mine
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...ushless/Detail
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 01:41 AM
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Hi Nightstone,

I'm sorry but geeks aren't allowed to post in this threads. Not allowed. Please swiftly go delete your post and never return....

No, just kidding. Sorry for the late reply, Sir.

I have used the 2822 motors on a DJI frame (330mm). They are not all that powerful so not recommended on a 600mm + frame

The motors you linked are VERY different. The 2822 have around 500 grams of thrust and the other motors (DT700) you linked have over 900 grams of thrust. They are in a different category altogether. The 2822 cannot really fly a 600MM frame. The props required are too big for these motors

Plus, since you want to use a camera, the lower KV motors with more thrust would be better (DT700). Low KV motors are better for FPV or photography as they tend to procure more stability and less oscillation or wobble. Much better for use with a camera setup.

The wooden frame is no good to use with a camera. Wood is too conductive of vibration so you probably want to look at something stiffer with more suitable material. Might be worth reconsidering your budget on the frame. Hobby King has decent frames starting at around 20 bucks but not in the 600MM ball park. They have some decent 550 frames you might want to consider.

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Hi chris

Thank You for the info. I went with 700's, KK2 Board, Programmer, 4 20amp multistar esc's, 11 inch props etc...

I did go with the wood frame. The flight test video I watched stated that wood actually dampens the vibrations.

Here is the vid ( Dampening is at 4:39 ).

Flite Test - Tricopter - REVIEW (12 min 0 sec)


So I'm curious now as to your reasoning on the wood. Be nice if others could pipe in too.

I'm not locked into the wood frame and can change it out or use as my learning frame.

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Secondly

Secondly...

My backup camera is a T2i and im willing to put it in the air with the kit lens. With kit lens its 26 Oz. Think these motors will lift it comfortably?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=6246

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