Those servos are the absolute worst EVER!!!

Rather than carry on about servos that are not even in production yet, wait until they arrrive before condeming them. They are not the same servo. There are a lot of parts that are new, including the gyro and servos, so unless you have privileged information about those parts that are not yet available, don't shoot your wad off before the release of the heli. I will wait to compare the new version with the one I have and the new parts against the ones I have upgraded on mine.

Don

Originally Posted by Keyrigger

Rather than carry on about servos that are not even in production yet, wait until they arrrive before condeming them. They are not the same servo. There are a lot of parts that are new, including the gyro and servos, so unless you have privileged information about those parts that are not yet available, don't shoot your wad off before the release of the heli. I will wait to compare the new version with the one I have and the new parts against the ones I have upgraded on mine.

Don

Here here! Well put... Yes the B400 has it's weak points... But have they fixed them on this B450? Who knows? Not in production yet!

But B400 has been good to me, easy to fix, easy to fly after you tame it down a lot, my first CP heli and I'm enjoying it a lot and I've learnt a lot too!

I think it's just a replacement to the B400.... Which is a good thing... So with my B400 and the new mcpx? The fun continues...

Keep up the development please e-flite!

Chris

my Q is why didnt they make a 600? a 450 is just way to close to the 400 i dont think it will be worth getting

Originally Posted by rangamatchstic

my Q is why didnt they make a 600? a 450 is just way to close to the 400 i dont think it will be worth getting

Also the fact that the market is already flooded with 450's, and much better ones in my opinion. not a great way to make yourself stand out as a company.

Looks like Horizons continuing the over-priced plastic junk series

yeh, maybe they could make something abit more interesting, actully you know what would be awsome, a tandem (chinhook) cp heli with good rotor heads, tha was actully capable of 3D manuvers, now that is something i would pay big for!

No, in fact, the market is flooded with junk heli's that are not designed by the ones that market them. A clone is nothing more than somebody's ploy to take money from you to line their pockets while not paying diddly squat for R&D, no matter what its retail cost is. They capitalize on your own greed to not buy from the companies that actually do R&D on heli's, electronics, and support parts. A ten dollar 450 kit is ten dollars that you light on fire and throw to the ground. So much garbage. I laugh at those whose clones come apart on them and cost them money, time and frustration. They deserve it.

Don

I laugh at those whose clones come apart on them and cost them money, time and frustration. They deserve it.

And for the majority that do NOT come apart and actually fly - what do you do then ? Gnash your teeth in frustration that you may not be 100% right ?

No, I still laugh at them. Ultimately, they loose as there will be some little tidbit of infomation that cannot be gleened from copying the original, and that results in a product that does not work like the original. Guys like you will always come to their defence, but why? Do you feel happy because you bought a cheap copy and it works? Who do you complain to when it doesn't. The theif who sold it to you in the first place? He got his money from you and that is all he wants from you. The original manufacturer that had their property stolen? Good luck to you as you bought into the garbage they sold.

Don

Originally Posted by Oracus

Looks like Horizons continuing the over-priced plastic junk series

HUH?

I have a few e-flite heli's (mcx, 120 SR, B400) over priced plastic junk????

Also a range of Parkzone birds as well!

So junk? Not at all! I'm very happy, they fly good, you know they'll fly out of the box... BNF is great idea, parts you can get, lots of info on the net, huge customer base world wide..... And great customer service..... What more could you want?

Go try your luck with other brands and see how you go!

B450 is a step forward from the B400, not a big step, but good too see movement !

Chris

keyrigger weve already had a thread about clones, and in the end i decided, align is way over priced, and for a learning heli the hk 450 CLONE is awsome. also you may laugh at the clones, which most of them are great barely noticable from the real thing, but i laugh at the people who go out and buy the 600 dollar trex450 knowing that they just wasted 500 when they could of had the same heli for 100.

Originally Posted by Keyrigger

No, I still laugh at them. Ultimately, they loose as there will be some little tidbit of infomation that cannot be gleened from copying the original, and that results in a product that does not work like the original. Guys like you will always come to their defence, but why? Do you feel happy because you bought a cheap copy and it works? Who do you complain to when it doesn't. The theif who sold it to you in the first place? He got his money from you and that is all he wants from you. The original manufacturer that had their property stolen? Good luck to you as you bought into the garbage they sold.

Don

All that my EXI needed was a tail servo tray. Also EXI forgot to thread one of the hexagonal bolts that go into the boom block. I ordered genuine Align ones to replace the one EXI bolt and guess what, one of them wasn't threaded. So Align has no better quality control than EXI and costs 4 times the price.
Also if you have problems, you can go to Xheli and they'll take care of you. They have sent my friend free parts to replace ones that did not come to spec.

Not in your dreams. Product development to produce good quality flyers costs real money and theft is all clones are. I hope you enjoy the bitter taste of your savings. At least I can call up the manufacturer and get answers about a problem I might have. Oh, that's right, I don't have many, but they are more than happy to take my call. How about your favourite clone? Do they pay for people to man the phones?

Don

About your clone threads or subject issues, I was not the one bringing up the issue, those that diss HH and other brands did the nasty. This was a thread about the new Blade 450, not about other 450's on the market. Take care.

Don

PS. It must be an example of good quality control when parts are not finished nor included in the first box. Seems it takes a couple of tries just to finish one kit or is that not what I just finished reading? This is not the first time I have read this nor will it be the last. At least HH takes the time to test fly all their RTF products and make sure they are complete.