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Old Sep 20, 2014, 06:58 PM
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Elliot Bowl 20-Sep-2014 Results

Interesting weather including rain with no clouds overhead
We switched from 100-meter launches to 150-meter launches for rounds 4, 5, and 6. The results include 1-drop.

1 - Charlie Morris - 4998.5
2 - Steve Willcox - 4961.5
3 - Ed - LaCroix - 4669.4
4 - Scott Todd - 4645.3
5 - Dan - Vester - 4604.6
6 - Lee Wolfe - 4422.9
7 - John Armstrong - 4197.9
8 - Iain Glithero - 3961.8
9 - Philip Brister - 3752
10 - Randy West - 3592.5
11 - Steve Jr. Willcox - 2846.2
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Old Sep 20, 2014, 07:39 PM
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Thank you Lee & Iain!

Charlie
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Old Sep 20, 2014, 07:58 PM
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After a brutal week of work. That contest took the grumpy off my face. Thanks for putting it on. Very interesting weather conditions. Never seen rain without clouds. Fun fun fun!


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Old Sep 20, 2014, 09:30 PM
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Thanks Lee
Had a good time
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Old Sep 20, 2014, 11:44 PM
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Had fun today. Maybe as it cools down we can throw in a micro-intermission and have some dawgs.

Thanks to Iain for co-CDing and helping to enter scores, Ed for placing landing tapes, Randy for pulling them, and to everyone who kicked in setting up the MASH unit. Prescott is next weekend, followed by Elliot Bowl F3K in 2-weeks.

Scott - do you want to use the east field?
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Old Sep 21, 2014, 01:17 AM
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My thanks to Lee and Ian for putting on the show. To John A. for sharing the bug spray (I was never bothered), thanks as well. I love that east field! It was nice to have an actual parking area.
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 10:29 AM
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Sorry if this is off topic. Could someone who is familiar post up the scoring software you all use for the F5J and the ALES contests, please? Also post up the limiters folks use for those two contests. I'm assuming the Altis is the only the F5J option commonly available. Is that becoming the standard for your ALES contests as well?

Thanks in advance,
Skye
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Old Sep 26, 2014, 10:48 AM
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All but one pilot is using the Altis v4 for F5J. For ALES there are pilots still using the CAM unit, but the Altis is capable of both F5J and ALES using the altitude cutoff feature. Also pickup the Altis keyboard for on-field programming so you don't have to bring a laptop.

Altis:
http://www.espritmodel.com/aerobtec-...4-fai-f5j.aspx

http://www.soaringusa.com/Altis-Alti...C-ARBT-V4.html

CAM (ALES only):
http://www.espritmodel.com/soaring-c...-cam-ales.aspx

http://www.soaringcircuits.com/

ALES and F5J scoring is simple enough where you can just code Excel sheets and build MP3 playlists using available round and flight window sound files. There's also pre-built man-on-man scoresheets for ALES/F5J use. You can also use GliderScore which will score ALES/TD/F5J.
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 06:25 PM
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Elliot Bowl ALES Results 11-Oct-2014

1 - Steve Wilcox 4993
2 - Charlie Morris 4971
3 - John Armstrong 4916
4 - Vern Poehls 4763
5 - Lee Wolfe 4741
6 - Ed LaCroix 4641
7 - Randy West 4594
8 - Iain Glithero 4510
9 - Jim Velleman 3328 (did not fly round 6)
10 - Jerry Bunger 3022
11 - Scott Todd 2710
12 - Darwin Barrie 2502 (did not fly round 6)
13 - Brad Juntunen 1887
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 06:34 PM
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Elliot Bowl F5J 18-Oct-2014

Announcement thread here:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2247946

Subscribe to this thread for ALES / F3K / F5J Elliot Bowl announcements.
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 06:40 PM
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Lee, which thread should we use to sign up for F5J?
I'm in.

-Ed
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 06:43 PM
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Thanks to Ian for being today's ALES CD; to Lee for continuously silencing Vicky and announcing the correct group names, and John "the falcon harasser" Armstrong for grilling up a great lunch! Awesome time guys.
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 07:18 PM
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Go ahead and use the other thread for signing up for the F5J event, and we'll keep this thread clean for ALES.

BTW - there will be another small change for future ALES events. We will normalize flight duration scores AND THEN add the landing points. It's actually in the ALES rules this way, but you must override the GliderScore default to score normalization first.

For this event we added flight duration scores and landing points, and then normalized results. The change is usually subtle, but can make a difference.

In the overall results posted below, when normalization before landing points were applied it actually increased the separation, but only moved one pilot from 5th to 4th.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 03:13 PM
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Oct 25th ALES Contest in Prescott Valley

PVSF will be hosting an ALES contest on Oct 25th

Location: Our flying site on the Football field at Bradshaw Mountain High School East Campus (our normal site). Visit pvsilentflyers.com if you need directions.

I checked with the school admin a few minutes ago and confirmed that the football field will be available to us.

Pilots meeting at 10 am, first flight 5 minutes after the end of the pilots meeting.

Entry fee $5

Dan will have Hot Dogs and Sodas as usual, $2 for 2 hot dogs and a soda.

Set your CAM units for a 150 meter launch.

We will try to fly 7 rounds, time and weather permitting. 1 dropped round if we fly 6 or more rounds.

All pilots, regardless of skill level, are invited to come fly with us.

Please reply to this thread to let me know who is coming, so I can get the scoring program set up in advance as much as possible. Last minute walk-ons will be accommodated, but if as many of you as possible can let me know in advance, it helps reduce the confusion factor just prior to the contest.

Any questions, post here.

Dan Vester,
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