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Old Nov 17, 2011, 11:00 PM
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Please absorb the CG analysis inthe other Pioneer thread befor venturing out.
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Old Nov 18, 2011, 01:37 AM
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The one I have is the updated one so we will see soon enough but I also think that he had the ailerons and elevator linked together or something like that.
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Old Nov 19, 2011, 11:21 AM
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FYI:
I have been replied to from the manufacturers.

the following is a copy and paste of that reply

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Hi Bob,

Thanks for you email.

For Pioneer glider, RTF price is 205usd, pnp 163usd.
Please let me know how many do you want to order,
tks.it is can pay with paypal .
please confirm it,then i send PI to you.

Do you also interested in another model?
Like F4u, Mig29,B17 and so one. tks.

Wait you news.
Sara
Sales Department
www.rcsun.com
Email:sales@rcsun.com MSN:rcsun@live.com
Tel86) 755 25576676
(86) 755 21138876
Fax86) 25029893
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Old Nov 19, 2011, 11:28 AM
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FYI:
I have been replied to from the manufacturers.

the following is a copy and paste of that reply

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Hi Bob,

Thanks for you email.

For Pioneer glider, RTF price is 205usd, pnp 163usd.
Please let me know how many do you want to order,
tks.it is can pay with paypal .
please confirm it,then i send PI to you.

Do you also interested in another model?
Like F4u, Mig29,B17 and so one. tks.

Wait you news.
Sara
Sales Department
www.rcsun.com
Email:sales@rcsun.com MSN:rcsun@live.com
Tel86) 755 25576676
(86) 755 21138876
Fax86) 25029893
Why the sad faces on the telephone #'s. Well thats good news
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Old Nov 19, 2011, 12:30 PM
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Dunno re Sad Faces. I just copy and pasted it here .

Good news ... well maybe.

Looking at the HC 2.32M FOX at $115 which is PNP ( I have One )
ref. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...n_Fly_v2_.html

I have to wonder about the pricing of this model,
unless the communicated price INCLUDED shipping.

This model has a much smaller, lighter fuselage and the wings
have the servos sticking out of the TOP in a rather unsophisticated way.

So, Again I have to question the price.
$100 + S&H would be more in line. IMHO
$163 If that included shipping still seems a bit unrealistic
considering the unproven nature of this particular model.

OK OK , it's an introductory price but aren't those usually Lower ?

So my take from the dealers standpoint is that for large shippments they
use EMS , which is pretty expensive.
With any qty discount the base price + the shipping make the cost to the dealer
about what ANYONE can purchase a single model with non ems type shipping.
I went thru this with flyfly and dropped the venture.
The Chinese MUST develop a SHARED Container mechanism if they want
keep prices LOW and get more products into the market.

Sorry I tend to rant on these issues.

Bob
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 01:56 PM
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Well no maiden today because of rain so looks like Wednesday will be the time
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 02:06 PM
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The first flight was pretty scary being tail heavy. Got it down in one piece. It seamed to have alot of down thrust which I took some out. I moved the battery slowy forward with each flight and was getting better so Friday going to try again and move the battery forward some more and see what happens. They claim 40+2mm for cg but its looking more like 35mm but will get a set cg this friday and let you know what I get. I also found that you have to have the right power setting at launch because to little and whats to nose dive and to much is like goes a bat out of hell and is all over the place.
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 03:53 PM
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I just made a mistake by measuring wrong and with moving the battery forward alittle more Im getting a cg of 35mm so that might something to start with.
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Old Nov 23, 2011, 11:28 PM
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Pre-Flight pics
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Old Nov 24, 2011, 11:46 AM
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See my cg study here ...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=47

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Old Nov 25, 2011, 01:34 PM
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So its looks like the CG is 35mm and flies great. Did acouple flights today and all went well. Its got tons of power as going vertical was not a problem. I got some video of the flight and will be posting soon. All and all I would say this is a great flying plane and stated in the beginning of the tread that I said that the motor had left thrust and had to be corrected. And also note the cg thats on the instructions are wrong and hope the fix that.
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Old Nov 25, 2011, 02:21 PM
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I used about 1/4 for take off and flew it around mostly at 1/2 Power. I flew mine on a Sky Lipo 40c 3s 2650mah and about 5mins worth of flying used about 30% of the battery. Im not much of a glider guy but if you know how to work the wind you can fly for a long time on one charge.
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Old Nov 25, 2011, 04:08 PM
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Heres the video need to upgrade to a HD Camera
X-UAV Pioneer 3 (5 min 35 sec)
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Old Nov 25, 2011, 09:46 PM
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Pioneer 3

Resembles the Genesis II sailplane which I think is a natural evolution of the Pioneer IID and the Pioneer 3
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Old Nov 26, 2011, 12:55 AM
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its based off those airplanes. I wonder how it flies with the little stab on the tail.
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