HobbyKing.com New Products Flash Sale
Reply
Thread Tools
Old Oct 22, 2011, 01:45 PM
Vertical approach specialist
potshot's Avatar
Northeastern Illinois
Joined Mar 2009
1,085 Posts
Great job on the plane and the build log! Two questions:
You recommended an 1800 KV motor; any examples of particular ones that might be suitable? And can you share a source for those control horns?

Thanks!
potshot is offline Find More Posts by potshot
Reply With Quote
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Old Oct 23, 2011, 01:24 AM
Registered User
how much's Avatar
United Kingdom, England, Wigan
Joined Jul 2011
755 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by potshot View Post
Great job on the plane and the build log! Two questions:
You recommended an 1800 KV motor; any examples of particular ones that might be suitable? And can you share a source for those control horns?

Thanks!

potshot

the control horns are brilliant to use, they are specifically designed for foamies, they are made by http://www.radioactivemfg.com/ and are part number F-RCA280 (4 in a pack) i get them from my local hobby store in the uk, im sure you can get them in the U.S. just press the 2 pins through the foam and the top cover snaps shut over the barbs on the pins.



i make up my pushrods as below..



the piano wire is .034" diameter. the "kink" near the z-bend allows the length of the rod to be fine adjusted when its all installed by squeezing it with pliers

the carbon rod is .070" diameter and just cyno's into the horn. i attach the wire to the carbon rod at the servo end with heatshrink tubing (yellow in photo) i shrink it then run a bit of cyno down the inside

never had one fail even on my insane 3d indoor stuff.

the 1800kv motors and the 30a esc's are the cheap items (6 posted each) from hong kong/china. just do a search on ebay for 1800kv

mine are here..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1304928827...84.m1423.l2649


David
how much is online now Find More Posts by how much
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 23, 2011, 08:46 PM
Vertical approach specialist
potshot's Avatar
Northeastern Illinois
Joined Mar 2009
1,085 Posts
Thanks, David. Looks like the motor is a Mystery A2208-12. (It's amazing how the price of those things varies on the internet.) It's a 36g motor, and there are other 1800 KV motors out there that are in the 24g range with similar amp draw.

I'm trying to get more info about Radioactive Mfg. to see if they have a US distributor. I want to get abunch of those control horns and some of their other stuff.

Anyway, thanks for the links and info.
potshot is offline Find More Posts by potshot
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2011, 08:00 AM
Registered User
Don Bourdon's Avatar
United States, NC, Cajah's Mountain
Joined Oct 2006
199 Posts
David,

Nice plane and build log.

How does she handle in the wind? Our flying site get very windy this time of year averaging between 8-10 knts on most days.

Cheers,
Don
Don Bourdon is offline Find More Posts by Don Bourdon
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2011, 11:31 AM
Registered User
how much's Avatar
United Kingdom, England, Wigan
Joined Jul 2011
755 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Bourdon View Post
David,

Nice plane and build log.

How does she handle in the wind? Our flying site get very windy this time of year averaging between 8-10 knts on most days.

Cheers,
Don
Don
it isnt too bad in the wind, the video of the prototype was in a gusting straight towards me wind of around 5mph+
the flat section wing helps so it doesnt balloon up when you turn into wind. and the fact it is massively over-powered with the 1800 helps too..
there will be a limit tho i havent found it yet cos of the light weight of the model.... finished ready to fly (without lipo) just 10.1/2 ounces

David
how much is online now Find More Posts by how much
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2011, 05:55 PM
Slipping the Surly Bonds
dz1sfb's Avatar
Attica, MI
Joined Dec 2006
10,386 Posts
David,

A good aileron trainer is certainly needed as a foamie scratchbuilt. Glad you took it on. Your design has some classic looks. I would like to some landing gear if possible. Its one thing that makes you feel like a real plane is to be able to take off and land and takeoff again without assistance from your arm. I like your plans presentation also.

Keep up the good work,
Ken
dz1sfb is offline Find More Posts by dz1sfb
RCG Plus Member
Latest blog entry: Mini H Quad Project
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24, 2011, 07:15 PM
Registered User
how much's Avatar
United Kingdom, England, Wigan
Joined Jul 2011
755 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dz1sfb View Post
David,

A good aileron trainer is certainly needed as a foamie scratchbuilt. Glad you took it on. Your design has some classic looks. I would like to some landing gear if possible. Its one thing that makes you feel like a real plane is to be able to take off and land and takeoff again without assistance from your arm. I like your plans presentation also.

Keep up the good work,
Ken
thanks Ken,

glad you like it, anyone looking for an "extreme" or 3D model need not bother, this model is a pussy cat to fly, the rolls i did on the video were "stick rammed in the corner" and are its max. it just has that "feels right" sort of performance, it doesnt need dual rates or expo or anything else to make it fly. the design wasn't based on anything in particular but a mish mash of elements of some classic models.

i have just tonight fitted a set of wheels to the second prototype i built for the blog, and have almost finished the covering and trim...

undercart is a simple bent piece of wire and the wheels are really lightweight that i made out of depron.

cant wait to show you number 2 now she is nearly finished

watch this thread!

David
how much is online now Find More Posts by how much
Last edited by how much; Oct 24, 2011 at 07:24 PM.
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2011, 12:04 PM
Registered User
how much's Avatar
United Kingdom, England, Wigan
Joined Jul 2011
755 Posts
"Wot-a Fokker"

Dark forces have been at work!
no sooner had i posted the plans safetly on the internet than i find out that the free plans have been stolen by that evil genious "Baron Von Wingover"

Von Wingover the renowned world war 1 fighter ace (now over 120 years old) has taken the plans for the Wot-Next and produced this... this...

"THING"

yes he has well and truely "Fokker'd" it








look at that tail logo.....





its amazing what a bit of self adhesive trim and a fertive imagination can do...
it really is how i intended the ""wot next" to look

seen here with the prototype




David
how much is online now Find More Posts by how much
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2011, 12:11 PM
AKA Don
bz1mcr's Avatar
United States, MI, Houghton Lake
Joined Dec 2002
7,542 Posts
Beautiful! I love it! It would be even better with some wheels.
bz1mcr is offline Find More Posts by bz1mcr
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2011, 12:16 PM
Registered User
how much's Avatar
United Kingdom, England, Wigan
Joined Jul 2011
755 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by bz1mcr View Post
Beautiful! I love it! It would be even better with some wheels.
?????

Ken Look again!

David
how much is online now Find More Posts by how much
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2011, 12:23 PM
AKA Don
bz1mcr's Avatar
United States, MI, Houghton Lake
Joined Dec 2002
7,542 Posts
AHH, now I see them a few photos up.
That makes it even better!
DON
bz1mcr is offline Find More Posts by bz1mcr
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2011, 01:52 PM
Slipping the Surly Bonds
dz1sfb's Avatar
Attica, MI
Joined Dec 2006
10,386 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by how much View Post
?????

Ken Look again!

David

David,

You've done an outstanding job. A real treat to see your creation. I believe this will be a popular plane.

Ken
dz1sfb is offline Find More Posts by dz1sfb
RCG Plus Member
Latest blog entry: Mini H Quad Project
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2011, 02:10 PM
Registered User
how much's Avatar
United Kingdom, England, Wigan
Joined Jul 2011
755 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dz1sfb View Post
David,

You've done an outstanding job. A real treat to see your creation. I believe this will be a popular plane.

Ken
thanks Don

("Don" didnt rhyme with "look again")

i will detail how to make the undercarriage,
how to make the wheels out of the same 6mm depron (no special tools required)
and how to scallop the trailing edges etc.

when i get a minute!

got to build a "British" version now for those inevitiable dogfights!

i do hope someone has a go at building one?



David
how much is online now Find More Posts by how much
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2011, 02:42 PM
Registered User
United States, KY, Louisville
Joined Feb 2011
63 Posts
David,

I am considering building your design as my next project. I dont have any Depron laying around but I do have fan fold and EPP, I will see what I can do with those materials.
MunkyMo is offline Find More Posts by MunkyMo
Reply With Quote
Old Oct 25, 2011, 03:47 PM
Vertical approach specialist
potshot's Avatar
Northeastern Illinois
Joined Mar 2009
1,085 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by how much View Post
Dark forces have been at work! ...
Let's really put the dark force to work and have the Baron lean forward out of the cockpit and measure the distance from the LE to the most forward part of the fuse. I like to draw stuff in CAD before cutting and this would help.

I must say I appreciate the whimsy, David.
potshot is offline Find More Posts by potshot
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wanted Wot Trainer St3v3 Aircraft - Fuel - Airplanes (FS/W) 0 Sep 29, 2011 08:06 AM
Discussion Trainer with aileron depron plan please... luconedj Beginner Training Area (Aircraft-Electric) 1 Apr 27, 2010 02:47 PM
Discussion Next model after aileron trainer? norite Beginner Training Area (Aircraft-Electric) 10 Jun 28, 2006 02:53 PM
Help! Next plane?....Need aileron trainer--- TurkeyTx Parkflyers 8 Feb 15, 2006 10:40 PM
Dandy Sport - aileron Trainer CoClimber Parkflyers 143 Apr 16, 2003 07:34 PM