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Old Oct 21, 2011, 08:11 AM
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With winter quickly approaching (too late for you Ozzites ) ....
We were talking recently on another board about effects of cold-weather flying on LiPos, Tx batteries & such....and as one described, "fun, until your hands go numb!" Quite by coincidence last night I found (stumbled upon, actually) a couple of items that ought to make winter flying more enjoyable; thought it was worth passing along:
https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...dProduct=19674
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https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...dProduct=11738

Somebody in discussion section gave some good usage tips - especially about not overdischarging the heater LiPo:
[SNIP] "I used a 7.4v lipo as a 12v lipo gets waaay too hot.
The only problem with this setup is that it does not protect the lipos from low voltage. So I bought this - Hobby King Battery Monitor 2S. This will warn me when the battery gets low. I hooked up my wattmeter and found out that this unit consumes 3.7A and at 27 watts and if use a 3s it is 5A at 50-5 watts. A quick calculation (2200mah) and it looks like I can use this for about 20 minutes and give me a 40% safety buffer left in the battery."
[SNIP]

I didn't even know these things existed....now very seriously considering a set!
(& as soon as Gene comes thru with those numbers, gonna have some!)
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 08:20 AM
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1. Yes
2. Yes
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Thanks for the answers! I am totally satisfied!
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 08:21 AM
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Guys, where you buy replaement parts except HK?
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 08:38 AM
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1. Yes
2. Yes
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Thanks for the answers! I am totally satisfied!
Okay, I had to look at the response because of history and with point 2, if you boil it down to just Yes and completely ignore the rest of the explanation, then you took it wrong. If you were looking for a Yes/No answer, the answer would have to be NO. It's only Yes with some caveats. Please don't ignore the caveats and just assume Yes because that's completely wrong when taken out of context.
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 09:04 AM
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Guys, where you buy replaement parts except HK?
For the Bixler airframe itself, I haven't seen any offerings for separate parts at Hobby King. I'd suggest possibly contacting their Customer Service directly and inquiring

There is another possible solution. The SkySurfer uses ~99% identical parts. You'll have to go to Banana Hobby for those, or a dealer that carries SkySurfer and offers separate parts....tho I don't know of any dealers who do.

Power train & common hardware items are of course available from most any hobby shop that carries RC gear.
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 10:23 AM
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I thought people would get a kick out of that. When it happened I actually had no idea I was as close to the trees as I was. I was bringing it in for a landing and figured I was a good 30 to 40 feet in front of the trees. Luckily I was banking and moving slowly when I hit the tree so there was no damage. I have to say, I'm really impressed at the durability of this plane. I've bounced it off the ground a few times and the only sign of damage has been a slightly compressed nose. From the sounds of it, I can fix that with a little hot water.



I'm in London, Ontario. The site was a good find. The houses you see in the background are actually under construction and I'm afraid that field will soon be bulldozed to make way for a new subdivision. In the meantime though it makes for a great flying site.



I think you might be right. My batteries are 1300 Mah Turnigy Nano's and they barely add any wait to the plane. I actually had to put a few of those washers back in the nose just to get the CG to where the wing spars are. Even then I think I could move it a little bit further forward. I also probably just need to get used to the sensitivity of the controls.
Nice job for first time. I put my plane into a tree on its maiden flight. Thought i was in front of it like you. I had to use a pole to get it out. Besides my poor depth perception i also turned the plane incorrectly when it was coming at me. Clipped a tree on my second flight which required some repairs. My buddies suggested i practice on a simulator for a while to get my reflexes tuned.

By the way. The people on this site are great. Good information, great help and most of the time funny. Enjoy your new hobby.

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Old Oct 21, 2011, 11:21 AM
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hey guys, a couple of things. I land in a field that is currently full of loose chunks of dirt due to the soybeans having recently been harvested. As a result, the two stock aileron servos have been killed and I have been replacing them with tower pro servos. I'm wondering if anyone can give me a tip as to where I can find servo savers for this purpose, or if someone can tell me how to mount the servos to the top of the wings? i searched the thread but I must not have the particular search terms right.
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 11:30 AM
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Yes. Yes, I do.
You're a funny guy... remind me of my dad. When he lay dying, a hospice worker asked him, "do you want the sheets up or do you want the sheets down?" He said, "yes!" with a twinkle in his eye and a small wry smile. It had to 'splain it to her...
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 11:42 AM
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I started flying when 27MHz radios were still in use and haven't flown in over 11 years.
You might say I'm "out of touch" with the sport.

After reading these threads, I am AMAZED at what you folks are doing with these planes (RTH? it was a big deal for us to have a loud beeper in the plane that would trigger when you turned off the radio. 3D flying? That worked when you held a small model in your hand and made the motions of flying.)

Just wondering- after adding the RTH, GPS, POV, data logging, etc. etc. etc. (like was done in the Youtube video in a recent thread), how much does that "$40" airplane really cost (my Bixler just arrived and I was knocked into reality by it's size and the realization of all that gets added to these things for the fun of it)?
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 11:44 AM
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10,000th post! Wahoo! I was waiting for that if you couldn't tell...
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 11:51 AM
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I started flying when 27MHz radios were still in use and haven't flown in over 11 years.
You might say I'm "out of touch" with the sport.

After reading these threads, I am AMAZED at what you folks are doing with these planes (RTH? it was a big deal for us to have a loud beeper in the plane that would trigger when you turned off the radio. 3D flying? That worked when you held a small model in your hand and made the motions of flying.)

Just wondering- after adding the RTH, GPS, POV, data logging, etc. etc. etc. (like was done in the Youtube video in a recent thread), how much does that "$40" airplane really cost (my Bixler just arrived and I was knocked into reality by it's size and the realization of all that gets added to these things for the fun of it)?
Well, you can get a good, powerful Bix/SkyS fully decked out for about $125 or so, minus transmitter.
Add ~$100 for a 5.8GHz vTx/vRx and a decent camera.
Pan/tilt, you can make for the cost of servos and put it in the canopy if you want. ~$6
Full ET OSD system (logger $45, OSD $60, GPS $60, Guardian $55) is about $220.

It ends up around $450 with all this but you don't need all the fancy stuff. You don't need an OSD, another failure point, and pan/tilt is unnecessary to start with. Just slap the gear on and for around $225 (Horizon RTF plane price), you can do FPV just fine and have fun.

Just be sure to get your HAM Technician License ($15 and a few hours of studying).
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 11:52 AM
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10,000th post! Wahoo! I was waiting for that if you couldn't tell...
Sniper!

BTW, robbnj... your 72Mhz gear will have better range for FPV than 2.4Ghz stuff... longer wavelength and all that... so you're not as out of touch as you might think.
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 11:52 AM
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Hello guys, I have been flying electric helicopters for a bit more than a couple years (fixed pitch in all orientations, 45- and 90 deg flybar and FBL, and recently collective pitch). I am planning to order the Bixler from the HobbyKing US warehouse as my first plane, and I would just like to confirm that there is nothing else I should order at the same time from the US warehouse, since at this time I would prefer to deal with a US-based source.

I already have a spare quality 18A ESC (Gaui), spektrum receiver for my JR9303 radio, connectors and a 1300 MAh 3S battery.

From what I understand to get started I should get better quality servo horns, a TGS 6x4E prop (and adapter? I am unfamiliar with how to connect airplane props) and some 3 and 4 mm carbon tubes. Could anyone point to the specific item IDs for these extra items from a US vendor with good prices/shipping charges? If necessary I can find the tubes and probably the horns on my own, but I have no idea what parts to order for the prop. I am also thinking to secure the wings with magnets. Thanks
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 12:04 PM
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From what I understand to get started I should get better quality servo horns, a TGS 6x4E prop (and adapter? I am unfamiliar with how to connect airplane props) and some 3 and 4 mm carbon tubes. Could anyone point to the specific item IDs for these extra items from a US vendor with good prices/shipping charges? If necessary I can find the tubes and probably the horns on my own, but I have no idea what parts to order for the prop. I am also thinking to secure the wings with magnets. Thanks
And 8mm CF strips from Kitesandotherfunthings or Kanuck Engineering, right? Doesn't the wing need to be beefed up still?
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 12:16 PM
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And 8mm CF strips from Kitesandotherfunthings or Kanuck Engineering, right? Doesn't the wing need to be beefed up still?
I beefed up the wing spar by sliding and gluing a 4mm carbon tube (.188" from Tower Hobbies, actually) inside the stock tube. The assembelage is MUCH more rigid but with still a very slight flex. I don' think it will ever break!

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