|Oct 30, 2012, 07:26 AM|
MassiveRC\HiSky: We're moving, DIY equipment arriving this week.
I hope you all are enjoying your Labor Day weekend. No day off for us as MassiveRC has outgrown our current facilities and is moving this week. Please be patient with us. In addition, our part-timer is going full time and I will no longer be handling orders. If any of you don't get shipping notifications at least 2 days after your order is placed, please let us know via the shop email\messaging system. If you notice anything good or bad with your orders, please let me know.
Diatone frames have been up for awhile. Our Emax shipment is arriving this week and we'll have motors, ESC's and some FPV equipment up for sale (we still haven't decided on a VTX but that will come).
Our Massive Acro and Massive 32 boards have arrived and if you guys have been soured by older configuration tools, you're going to love Cleanflight. No need for using a separate firmware flashing utility. Easily calibrate your ESCs. This firmware has an autotune feature which I have yet to try but looks very promising.
There's very little you need to do configurationwise once you have the pin headers soldered on. Most will use the MAP feature to remap receiver inputs, enable motor stop, and enable PPM_RX. The only PID settings I messed with was to increase my yaw rate to .30
We also have Bluetooth and GPS modules and other accessories such as standoffs.
I'll finalize the Diatone FPV V3 bundle kit later in the week (FCB, motors, ESC's, hardware, etc.)
If you're looking for DIY items, here's the main link:
Which I've subcategorized......if you don't see anything yet, in those subcategories, they'll be populated before the end of the week.
Our plan was to carry genuine Naze 32 and Acro Naze. In order to get the FCBs (Flight Control Board) in time for our Diatone kits and under pressure to get all these items in stock at the same time I looked at various sources.
I had planned on typing a long diatribe explaining the background but figured most of you won't really care, but for those of you who do, PM me and I'll be happy to explain in detail.
The boards we are selling are hardware clones of the Naze and Acro, just like the Flip32 (well the Flip32 has as different layout) and Mullet are. If you want a true original, go to Abusemark.com and purchase there or find reference links to resellers.
Once our initial stock are sold, we'll try to obtain official Naze\Acro from timecop but this is tentative and not set in stone.
We will be supporting Cleanflight configurator, which is the best I've used so far and all our boards will be pre-flashed with it.
MassiveRC is no longer a one-person operation (Well it was always a 2-person operation but daily orders were done by myself). We have a part time helper which will go full-time around September. If your orders are missing something or don't seem right please let me know as I'm sure mistakes will be made until our first employee is fully up to speed. I will still be handling customer correspondence and support. Part of this change will require more accurate shipping costs. Once we revamp the shipping calculator we may run into some bugs so please be patient with us.
In order for MassiveRC to grow, we will be focusing on vendors that stand behind their products. WL Toys use to be worth the trouble as they had performance and price, and a somewhat stabile platform as far as protocols go. They're resting on their laurels and don't have an ounce of vision or originality and at least before their clones were able to outperform the originals or come close to it at a much better price point. That's no longer true. I don't know if we'll continue to carry their lineup although we will try our best to stock spares.
Our previous flight-tested policy was mandatory to weed out all the junk. Now that we're carrying larger and better quality products such as HiSky and RC Logger, flight testing isn't as crucial, not to mention impractical as we're not just selling smaller, low-powered micros anymore. We still bench test every unit (BNF, ARF, RTF), which I feel is sufficient to weed out the DOAs of these higher-quality products.
When MassiveRC first started we were asked to carry hobby-grade components. I didn't feel we had the maturity nor did we have the capital to do so. In addition, the 250 class was almost nonexistent. the Eye One Xtreme was revolutionary in that you could get brushless power in a package that was still lightweight and could be considered safe compared to its larger counterparts, not to mention at a bargain price.
The 250 and smaller class still has a lot of room for innovation, and its small size is safer for the hobby, that's why we'll be focusing on it. We'll be carrying a smaller selection of components, known to work well together, trying to get the necessary accessories to complete the builds.
We'll have inventory of the new Diatone 250FPV V3 frames and Emax 1806 motors with 12 amp ESC's in a few weeks. We'll have some cloverleaf antennas and I have 2 32-channel 5.8 Ghz receivers in mind and am still deciding on 5.8 transmitters (nothing higher than 200 mW).
Stay tuned and as always, thanks for your support.
Hi guys, gotta make way for the new models. All HiSky RTF\BNF items are on sale at major price reduction:
RC Logger is almost finished with the new firmware update. More details can be had here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=12331
There is also a hardware update involving soldering a resistor onto the board, which addresses the 2-motor start-up issue.
Once the logistics are worked out we'll announce how to get your units upgraded.
We do have 200 sets of motor mounts and 150 aerial kits (with upgraded 1150 LiPo with softer wires) on the way.
We also have some new items on the way:
-HQ 6045 props in black, green, and orange.
-Mini Tweezers with angled tip
-Compact voltage meter with alarm (we're done with the Hobby King ones)
-Micro brushless multi-wii based quad (evaluation testing for now), details below
A few more Mobius\808 mounting options such as:
-GoPro mount adapter
-808 Screw bracket mount that can be used with Mobius mounting accessories
-808 ball-socket bracket mount that can be used with Mobius mounting accessories
You can always check out our new products page as well:
Honeymoon pictures are up:
I'll be back in town tomorrow evening and you all will be able to order as well. I'll catch up on posts as well Jackson Hole \ Yellowstone was a blast. We're seriously thinking of moving up here.
We will be closing up shop from April 29th to May 8th. Monday the 28th will be the last day we'll process orders before my new bride and I leave for our overdue honeymoon. This time we'll put the store in catalogue mode so you'll be able to view items, but not prices nor purchase anything. We are going to visit Jackson Hole to enjoy the mountains and wildlife.
Romeo Barrera aka Massive Overkill
Shop is back open for orders. Thanks for your patience.
Hi guys, I'm temporarily suspending further orders until we can fulfill the existing backlog of 50 orders. I'm hoping we'll be able to re enable ordering by the end of the week. Had a great time and I'll post pics and give more info a bit later.
RC Logger spare parts should be here within the week with the Xtremes hopefully arriving the following week (crosses fingers).
We are also going to carry a number of accessories for the Xtreme:
We are going to carry the Phoenix Flight Gear carbon frames\accessories from RC Drones (thanks Tony )
We are going to stock the LemonRX PPM receivers. Ours will have a Futaba servo lead coming from the board so you can plug it into the Xtreme's PPM port. The elimination of the pins should make the RX board lower profile. If there is a high demand for other PPM receivers let us know and we'll see what we can do.
We are stocking the RC Connectors balance plug adapter and JST adapter so you charge your stock batteries with your generic LiPo balance charger and power the Xtreme with a standard 2S LiPo that you may already have on hand. Please understand that while we offer these adapters you take full responsibility in using them. If the adapter itself is faulty we'll replace it, but neither we nor RC Logger assume any liability resulting in the use of them so buyer beware.
I'll try to get all the above items up on the store for order next week. If you've already pre-ordered we'll combine shipping as we always do and refund overages as we always do.
Deviation..........yes I know we've been beating around the bush and I apologize. We've ordered NRF2401 and A7105 TX modules. I'm in the process of researching connectors and like this one, which is color coded for easier DIY:
I've ordered the components for Phractured Blue's Universal module to see how hard it is to put together.
As far as modding.......no more diode mods, it's too labor intensive. We will still flash Deviation. Still debating on how to handle installing modules and not violate FCC rules (maybe assemble, test, and then unplug the module, in which case the module will be externally mounted). We are also looking at a third party to produce Phractured Blue's universal module for us.
WL Toys: V212s and V262s should be here in a week or two along with the new V242's
Finally...........FPV equipment. This is the last thing on our plate and may have to wait until the next capital fund replenishment.
As always, thanks for your support,
Romeo and James
Hi guys. Many of you have asked us to become a distributor for RC Logger. The upcoming Eye One Extreme is just too good a value to pass up. More importantly, is I've found it hard to find a company that stands behind its products and takes input directly from the community like RC Logger. They're not simply here for PR value like other company reps who go AWOL after pushing their marketing\propaganda campaign. They're here through thick and thin and don't hide their heads in the sand when something goes wrong, but tackle the problem head on and are TRANSPARENT about it.
Although I've signed the agreement, it may be premature to announce us being an official dealer for RCL, but my excitement got the better of me.
Thanks again for your support,
Romeo and James
Alright guys, sorry it took so long but the HiSky main products are up:
We'll concentrate on getting the spare parts up during the rest of the week. If you want spares, I suggest you hold off ordering until we get them all up. Those of you V911 lovers be sure to check out the HFP80\100. Both are available as BNFs so you can use your existing V911 transmitter with them.
Please note that these are all retail packaged and a first for MassiveRC is that none of these will be flight tested as HiSky has much higher quality control than the other brands we carry and HiSky flight tests these from the factory.
Be sure to check out the other new products and refreshes, such as the revised 808#16 V3 cameras.
We hope you all had a Merry Christmas (or other peaceful holiday you celebrate). If you haven't already heard, I'm tying the knot New Year's Eve and while you can still make orders, they won't ship until Jan 3rd at the earliest. Some of the easy orders we've already shipped out but most of the quads won't go out until that date. This month was record-setting for us and we truly appreciate it.
Our HiSky shipment of micro quads and the FF120 (now known as the HMX120) have arrived but it will take some time to add all the inventory to the store, we have lots of spare parts as well. And yes......we have some of the FlySky compatible micro helis in stock (available as a BNF). Until I get up to speed on the helis HiSky_Official will be handling most of the support, especially when it comes to HiSky transmitter related questions, including the HT8 module. I can probably field Deviation-based questions as the latest nightly build of Deviation works with the HiSky protocol (which uses the same WL Toys TX module).
The Mobius wide lens cameras now come with lens caps. If you've ordered a wide lens Mobius from us in the past, we'll send you a lens cap on the house but you have to pay for shipping or send us a self-addressed, stamped envelope, or we can throw it in on your next order. I believe we have enough on hand to accommodate all previous sales.
FPV equipment. We're ready to purchase FPV equipment, which will be targeted at the budget crowd with limited but proven selection of components that I've personally tested out and believe in, but we've been holding off due too the high cost of goggles and/or LCD displays. I'm not a big fan of LCD displays due to sun but would like everyone's input. I think we can easily carry the video transmitters, receivers, and limited FPV cameras (for those not using the Mobius or 808 as their camera), but would you be fine with purchasing goggles elsewhere or would it be that important to get everything from one source?
Previously I've relaxed the store's security settings for customer convenience, so if you accidentally forgot to add your shipping address to your credit card's records we didn't block the order. Some scam artists took advantage of this and took us for some money so we're putting putting that requirement back in. We'll also be scrutinizing international orders, especially from the EU, as that's where the scammers ordered from. We may bump up the price of non Canadian international orders in order to add registered mail on larger orders to further protect us from scammers.
If you don't have your shipping address on record with your credit card company (which is different than your billing address) please contact your credit card company and do so before ordering.
Hope you all have a safe and happy new year!
OK guys, the V252 perimeter guards have arrived and I like them.
Weight is 2.7 Grams with wire tie. It has a top crossbar brace to help protect against ceiling hits which also allows you to do ceiling spins. It installs and comes off easily without having to remove props your props. To make the frame taught, install a zip tie or wire tie just underneath the motor claws and it makes a big difference.
This perimeter guard is available on our store:
Sorry for my video glasses being a little too high. I had to do this video in a rush.
I'm printing shipping labels for today's orders I come to the realization that it's our 1-year anniversary!! It's been a tough year: Getting laid off at Thanksgiving\Christmas, learning the ins-outs of starting an online business and managing e-commerce, shipping delays, shady manufacturers screwing us over, and the list goes on.
As I look back on the last year, the positives outweigh the negatives. Actually being able to make a profit and not burden the rest of the country by filing for unemployment. We started out with 1 product and expanded to over 150. Our Ebay store that still has a perfect feedback rating. We've grossed $135K in sales, fulfilling over 2500 orders, all without spending a dime on advertising but relying on word of mouth of our loyal customers. We've become a distributor for HiSky, which has a very promising future.
It's fitting that on our anniversary, my brother will also venture out of the corruption, evil, and political BS associated with the corporate world and shareholders and experience the rewards of working for yourself and working with people that appreciate everything you do.
I would like to thank and raise a glass to: my business partner James, my fiance Ellie, RC Groups, and to all our customers for believing in us and sticking with us.
You'll probably notice in the title that there's now a \HiSky next to our name. We are now going to be a US distributor and service center for HiSky
I know, I know you all have been patiently waiting and we're only asking you to wait a maybe a day or so while we get inventory situated. Today is going to be hectic.
Some good news:
Both the V252s and V262s have the updated antenna leads. These are the ones with the black wire and dipole shield......something I haven't seen anyone else who has been sent 'fixed' remotes show me that theirs has. I think WL Toys has finally gotten a grip on the drop-out problem reducing it from occasionally to nothing at all:
The PCB in the V252 TX is yet another new version, Rev 4. You'll also like the fact that the V252 remotes have black chrome instead of shiny chrome.
Our V262s........they are version 2 so if you have a V959 or V222 and want to use your modules, guess what? You'll be able to use them on the V262, which already comes with function buttons (I'll test later).
It's going to take awhile to get the V262's out. I'll try and get them up tonight or tomorrow but when you order it may not go out the next day because we're going to break the motors in, which takes time (have to rig up a 4 plug AC\DC setup and then a cooling fan to properly break them in without overheating them).
I've already stated that we have 52 Devo 7Es in stock. If you want a modded Devo with your V252\V262, I suggest you hold off as it's very labor intensive to mod these and we're still sourcing parts to make it easy for DIYers. The HiSky protocol has been added to the latest build by Victor and I'm flying my FBL 70 like it stole a V911 with my Devo 7E.
If you request it, we'll flash Deviation free of charge, keeping in mind that warranty become null and void if we do so.
For now we'll be offering the unit with the stock 'A2' module as an option. Diode mod testing is still in the works to find an easy way to determine its success without having to go out to a soccer field to test the range (it seems listening to the hum isn't a foolproof way to test it).
While you all are waiting for everything to become available, pass the time by listening to me make a fool of myself on TheCrashCast podcast. My interview starts at the 52 minute mark but if you have the time you should listen to the whole thing:
Here's the link to their page: http://www.thecrashcast.com/
Was so stoked about the good news that I forgot about the bad news. We wanted to offer the perimeter guard for free with the V252s but WL Toys is holding off on producing them due to litigation. This is why you see all perimeter guards being offered with V252s as being X4 guards.
Hopefully I can update this post later tonight.
A lot of progress has been made on the Deviation hack working with the Devo series TXs. The versatility is awesome. I can use my Devo 7E to control my V202, V212, V222 (including ALL the modules), and the V262. Since the Devo 7E only has 2 toggle switches the latest nightly build allows you to use the seldom used throttle and yaw trims as additional switches. You could also assign the roll and pitch trims for other functions as well.
I've uploaded the V2X2 configuration file, which will work with........you guessed it, any V2X2 model here:
DLing the attachment works in IE but not Chrome or Firefox
The Devo 7E can be had for as little as $70 online and as far as running protocols, rivals the mighty Turnigy 9X. It's also small and compact.
Thanks to Phractured Blue, Victzh, Daryoon, Jason, and anyone else I've neglected to mention for all their hard work.
Here's the original post of the beginning of the WL Toys protocol implementation:
Daryoon's pinout diagram
Small update. We've been working with a customer who works for a company that makes 2.4 Ghz devices. They've analyzed the problem and it seems that you can mitigate and maybe eliminate the drop out problem and increase range with a few simple mods that I believe all owners are capable of performing without having to wait for the updated components from WL Toys:
1) Trim the antennas to 31mm. On the RX you include the end protruding through the PCB in your measurement.
2) Orient the RX antenna so it's perpendicular to the FCB. This means punching a hole in your canopy to accommodate this.
3) Remove the TX antenna cover and bend the antenna so it's perpendicular to the ground.....this is dependent upon how you hold your transmitter when flying.
4) On V212\V222s try flying without the lights on or at least disable the landing strip lights. The LEDs aren't properly isolated from the motors. I've noticed that they dim when throttle is applied and they also suck up a lot of juice. I run single-bulb LEDs with my light saber mod on mine now.
5) Disable the LED light strip on the TX that indicate power.
Those of you with persistent problems should try at least 1-4
They've done other mods that have already been attempted with good results as well (such as CReal's antenna mod). Modding the TX has reduced power consumption as well. Their TX mod also included replacing some SMCs for better frequency isolation, which is probably similar to what WL Toys is doing in parallel to the TXs that will be coming out. These additional mods were icing on the cake.
We now carry the new Mobius 1080p Action cameras
MassiveRC just received our inventory of Mobius cameras with accessories. We are already a verified 808#16V2 reseller and have contacted the developer to confirm with Tom that we are now a verified Mobius camera reseller.
We don't have them listed on Ebay, but directly from our store:
We have all the accessories in stock (in limited quantities until we determine demand). We're debating making an Ebay listing due to fees.
We also now carry the 808 lens extension cables as well in 8", 15" and 25" sizes.
Our new batch of V212's will be shipped to us within the week (be here hopefully in 2-3). This batch is supposed to be fixed. I'm not going to stand behind that statement until some get out into the wild and get customer verification that it's true. Once we verify this batch truly is fixed we'll continue the negotiations with WL Toys to see what can be done for current customers.
To give you a hint............getting a BNF should be good enough. In addition, not every V202\V212\V222 was affected. I've been told about 1.5% were affected (please don't ask me for sources as it's confidential and I don't want to get into a pissing match about numbers either.......arguing about it isn't going to help solve the issue). We should however seperate the dropping-out-of-the-sky problem from range issues as they are indeed seperate and one can be confused for the other (hence CReal' and my little debate) and it could be possible you have both. You can see from my recent videos, that I don't have a range problem.
Turns out these 'new' boards simply had their accelerometers recalibrated.
We'll be offering BNFs and multiple options with the V212 such as different lighting and canopy options. If you want a V212 and V202 with only one remote, order the RTF V202 and then a BNF V212 as the BNF V202 is quad-only, no accessories, whereas the BNF V212 includes everything but remote.
Frankenquad upgrade package:
We already put up a V202 BNF:
Frankenquad V2 is truly amazing. We're very close to releasing it. See end post for details.
We are now offering a Vitality H36 BNF version:
The Hubsan X4 Super Glue Special is all we have left in stock. We have props and spare body shells on order and handful of RX boards. We're now including rubber feet and 1 set of spare props. Our X4's have EA4000362 board revision:
And the X4 super-glue special:
Check out Chris' review from the RC Today Show:
Fast forward to 30 minutes into the show for the review on the V202
The Crash Cast's review (starts at 3:54):
RCPA's review (starts at 40:27):
Just wanted to let you all know that James and I are going into business together. We're hoping that with both of us both being enthusiasts, that we can bring added value to the products not just from understanding them, but by directly influencing the product itself with our buying power, and also our direct personal relationship with these vendors.
Right now sales will be concentrated in the US as we all know getting product to US customers in a timely manner has been a problem or expensive.
We also don't want to be vendors that have to walk on others to get your business. There's plenty of $$$ to go around and sometimes the other vendor may be able to get you a better deal. We want to concentrate on providing good service to you and not badmouth other vendors to get your business.
With this being a new venture, there are going to be some bumps, so we apologize in advance. While we may do drop shipping, the majority of the product will be in our US Warehouse and you'll know where it's coming from and what's in stock. We will stock up heavily on spares so you can get them in a matter of days or a week. I believe that we can get good enough pricing that drop-shipping won't even be necssary. All In-house products will be tested before shipping out.
Time is critical for us to get up and running and product available before the holidays, but stay tuned. Because of the need to get up and running as soon as possible, don' t expect the website to be glamorous. We appreciate your patience.
I've sent a message out to the forum owner to make sure we're not violating any policies with this 'advertising' but haven't heard anything back so hopefully this thead won't get locked. We have to run as lean as we can to be succesful, and if things go well, we'll get some banner advertising going on.
Thanks and stay tuned.
Here's the Home Page: http://www.massiverc.com/
Updated our store URL: www.store.massiverc.com
and the old link still works as well. Should speed it up a little and be easier to remember. You can also go to www.rc.massiverc.com, www.quad.massiverc.com, or www.shop.massiverc.com, whatever is easier for you to remember
|Oct 30, 2012, 08:20 AM|
hahaha Cheers Thetis and bangkomit!
I don't think the gf would approve of me marrying MassiveOverkill :P (or his better half allowing him to marry me!)
We saw the void in the market for a US based online hobby shop run by enthusiasts... we've talked in length about starting this venture...and now we've decided to take action.
You guys are witnessing our humble beginnings...as MassiveOverkill said, this venture is going to be operated on the basis of solid ethics and providing great service even though we are limited in manpower and finance.
We still want to give back to the r/c community as much as we could, so I will still write un-biased reviews when I have time... and we'll still be our usual selves on RCG despite having this venture...
It's just the thought of doing what you love... that's what attracts me to enter this venture with MO...and if we could get more people to be passionate about this hobby, then we're doing what we've set out to accomplish.
We have big dreams...but they say...never be afraid to dream big...right?
|Oct 30, 2012, 09:25 AM|
Joined Feb 2007
Best to both of you on new venture. USA could use good source of parts for Walkrea/ Solo-pro/ WL toys and have someone with pilot lite lit. Having to go to several sites to get stuff is big turn off. Quads are in and see no downturn in demand anytime soon. WL Toys needs to get a FBL 4 ch going, let them know as sure there are many others who would like to see this. Again, good luck....>Dan
|Oct 30, 2012, 12:01 PM|
Very happy news!
Your combined respective skills and knowledge can only lead to a positive asset for the community and to success for you.
If once you decide to involve the old Europe in your business, you can count on me to give a hand.
|Oct 30, 2012, 12:31 PM|
Joined Jan 2010
|Oct 30, 2012, 12:38 PM|
Congratulations to you both!
This is a fantastic idea and I personally am glad to see someone with the passion and ability to take something like this on. I am unfortunately a little impatient and find myself often paying a little more in order to receive items here in the US rather than wait for a month or more for products overseas. Plus the lack of support. I really hope the best for you guys and believe this will be a profitable venture if everyone gets on board.
|Oct 30, 2012, 01:17 PM|
United States, TN, Knoxville
Joined Jun 2012
Cogratulations. Hopefully you can fix several problems:
1. Keeping a fair amount of spare blades, batteries, chargers, and motors in stock for each quad. In fact it would be nice if you all sold deluxe packages that come with something like six batteries, six blade sets, etc. I don't mind paying more for a product if it keeps me from being frustrated and flighless waiting on parts. Quads are great but they are like pets. They need to be fed and maintained.
2. Pressure the manufacturers for better looking canopies. We don't want our toys looking like toys. In fact I'd urge manufacturers to have a look at Apple's designs. Simplicity is often best. Give me clear domes and solid white canopies over insects and cheesy flying saucers.
3. Have some complete DIY kits in stock like the X250 for those who want to step up our game but aren't the most tech savy. Kits that have very clear instructions.
Also, if you need any unbiased reviewing of quads I'll be happy to volunteer.
|Oct 30, 2012, 04:44 PM|
|Oct 30, 2012, 10:15 PM|
The reason why we may not be carrying the Hubsan X4 initially is due to the lack of spares, probably because of the high demand of main units plus lead times are long as you all have seen. Hopefully with the success of the X4, Hubsan can ramp up production and meet demand, but more importantly, be willing to listen to customers about improvements.
2. I am looking at a local source that could provide carbon fiber canopies but that's farther out in the timeline but hopefully we can influence the manufacturer to offer different designs. It's tough to cater to all the personal preferences though. I for one like the beetle bug look, but I know everyone else hates it.
3. Until we get on our feet, we're going to have to concentrate on specific products, but as things progress we'll see what we can do.
|Oct 31, 2012, 04:51 AM|
United States, TN, Knoxville
Joined Jun 2012
Any chance you'll sell some things via Amazon? I know they are a middleman but I really like the convenience of Amazon giftcards.
|Oct 31, 2012, 07:30 AM|
Trying to see which is going to sell more the micros or the minis.
|Oct 31, 2012, 07:48 AM|
United States, TN, Knoxville
Joined Jun 2012
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