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Old Nov 24, 2012, 01:03 PM
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I had made a little different :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeuSR..._order&list=UL
but a bike must have only 2 wheels
why do I have a pain in my neck after watching this?! It must be that

a bike must have only 2 wheels
probably?!
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 02:01 AM
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you guys simply have too much time
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:10 AM
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I got my little Kyosho Mini-Z Motorace this weekend. Somehow I had to laugh.

You can set up the following:
Front Ride hight
Rear Ride hight
Fork caster angle
Steering springs
Heavier Front wheel

Surprisingly there is no rear damping, front fork damping, steering damping and
there is a lot of play in the forks. Of course this is more because it´s a tough task
to make such small components. But if it was essential for the bike to work
Kyosho would have made shocks for it.

The Center of Gravity is only slightly above the axle hight.
It is set up Tailheavy 57-43% guess thats because of the gyro but the heavier
front wheel will balance that out a bit. Further it doesnt really matter as the
motor isn´t powerful enough to make it wheely. On top of that it is nearly perfectly
balanced left to right.

Eventhough you can hardly change anything and it´s got no shocks whatsoever
the bike works surprisingly well and is a lot of fun. All you need to do is reduce the
gyro to minimum and drive it.

In the manual (pages 29 to 31) they explain what the setup does a little but
no in depth information.
-For example if you increase the ride hight you increase the leaning angle
making it turn tighter.
-If you make the caster as they call "Large(A)" then you make the wheelbase longer.
Thats the reason why its supposed to have "better performance over rough surfaces"

Well guess why they did´nt make it more complex?

Thats one of the things I have been trying to explain in the past: If a bike works
you can´t really change its performance fiddling around with the setup...

I admit the gyro makes most of its stability. But next time you play around with
your 1:5th scale Bike just keep in mind how this little bugger performs. Just try
the "setup features" this bike has on your big bike you might be surprised.
And next time someone tells you to change the oil in your dampers to a slightly
harder weight or moan about the play in your fork give it a second thought....

I know this sounds a bit too simple and it is a drastic comparison. But under the line
I think its a good example to explain bike setup. Sometimes looking over the fence
opens a new sight onto things.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 11:09 AM
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I love your thinking, Edi! I like the bike as is, too!
I didnt change ANYTHING!
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 12:18 PM
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I love your thinking, Edi! I like the bike as is, too!
I didnt change ANYTHING!
Well im changing everything!!!..cos im a tart like that!!

I think we will have a kyosho mini z moto racer world champs during lunch break at the Austrian worlds next year!!!....
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 01:17 PM
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I'm in!!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 10:06 AM
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I am in too. With Helly thats 4 of us. I will tell him to take his Mini-Z Track to Graz.
... by the way I will only race Motorace Mini-Z if the rules say that the rear wheel
isn´t allowed a disc cover and I can be sure you two dont have little monkeys
doing funny things in the rear wheel...
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 10:24 AM
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Game on!!..........just need a set of mini z roadies!...Clark!!!!!!
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 10:44 AM
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we will have to make sure the motor in the rear wheel is not turned the timing, too!!!!
And... no oil filled suspension anyone!!!

funny as it may sound, it's VERY easy to pack this bike and its radio with my other stuff and ride the BMW to Austria... so, yes, I will probably have it so we may race during the lunch break!!!
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:03 AM
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Right,the rules are..all standard except..

alloy wheels
bearing roller bars
harder steering springs
(cos ive bought these!!!)

No dicking about with motors..no lehners edi!!!.

The Bomber will supply a prize for first place...it will be worth winning,although it might not get through customs

There will be a worlds warm up,July 26th..location..in my front room!!
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 06:48 AM
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Playing around with Google I found out that my Hometrack is close to
the center of RC-Biking Europe. If I draw a circle with a Radius of
600km Metropoles like Berlin, Rome, Prag, Vienna, Milano,
Munich are all within reach. Even Paris and Brussels aren´t that far away.
I think I will have to start up a fashion or a perfume label:
"le fétidité troppo biblico pestilenza si vous voulez essece de κουβεντολόι la fuente Kematen"

by the way I am plannig a Race in Kematen.
Possibly 20./21.July.2013.
Maps
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Old Dec 10, 2012, 07:52 AM
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counting down the metropoles you forgot dormagen
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 11:08 AM
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we will have to make sure the motor in the rear wheel is not turned the timing, too!!!!
And... no oil filled suspension anyone!!!

funny as it may sound, it's VERY easy to pack this bike and its radio with my other stuff and ride the BMW to Austria... so, yes, I will probably have it so we may race during the lunch break!!!
I'm in
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 11:28 AM
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I am checking how to make the AMB Transponder to fit in the Motoracer.....
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Old Dec 11, 2012, 12:51 PM
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I am checking how to make the AMB Transponder to fit in the Motoracer.....
I asked also my local (car) mini-z racers on ideas... If something good comes up, I will tell you!

Nice to see you here, too, Fredrik!
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