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Old Oct 14, 2012, 06:22 PM
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Best 4 ch. Trainer for beginner

Ready to go to a good trainer4 ch radio plane. I have a spectum dx6i on the way. I will need an airplane that can bind with my spectum. I also have a grass airstrip. This was hard on my 3 ch. Setup. Any and all suggestions would be appreciated
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 09:30 PM
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Get an Apprentice. Change to larger wheels for the grass. It's a great 4 channel trainer, large enough to see easily at a distance. And can be used for some simple aerobatics, like inverted flying.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 11:29 PM
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hawksy at nitroplanes.com or bixler or sky surfer
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 04:37 AM
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Ready to go to a good trainer4 ch radio plane. I have a spectum dx6i on the way. I will need an airplane that can bind with my spectum. I also have a grass airstrip. This was hard on my 3 ch. Setup. Any and all suggestions would be appreciated
Convert your existing 3ch machine to 4ch. I did this a lot before when I used to teach flyers ... literally soon after first flights - I showed them how to modify their trainer to 4ch ...
That way they had a familiar model but added benefit of 4ch.

How ?

a) Cut wing at centreline and reduce dihedral to less but NOT zero. We can leave a sensible amount to still give some aspect of self-levelling. Usually you can remove about half the dihedral. Reglue the wing together with short bamboo skewers (2) across joint.
b) Cut trailing edge of wing either side to create ailerons. Leave centre section intact ...bevel front edge of ailerons so they can deflect up / down ...
c) Hinge to main wing using mylar strip or hinges.
d) Set small servo into each wing with short control rod to horn on each aileron.
e) Use Y lead to connect servos to Rx in primary turn channel (ie where you used to have rudder)
f) Plug rudder servo into secondary turn ch usually ch 4 on most Rx's.

Set all up level ... make sure you have reasonable travel on ailerons ... and set dual rate ailerons at 50 - 60% of that just in case.

Deep breath ... go fly.

If it's anything like the guys I showed to do above - you'll be amazed what your old trainer can now do. Keep on with it while looking at the 4ch or better that you want to have ...

Nigel
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 06:41 AM
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+1 fastfwd. (1) Hawk Sky - Nitroplanes, (2)Bixler - Hobby King or (3) HobbyZone Champ.
The Champ is only three channels but a terrific plane to learn on. There is a huge thread on this forum dedicated to the Champ.
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 06:51 AM
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I don't know if its the "best", but the Flyzone Sensei has received some very good reviews. Plus it has drop doors.
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 08:52 AM
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+1 fastfwd. (1) Hawk Sky - Nitroplanes, (2)Bixler - Hobby King or (3) HobbyZone Champ.
The Champ is only three channels but a terrific plane to learn on. There is a huge thread on this forum dedicated to the Champ.
As I read it - he's done the 3ch route and now wants to move on and up a grade .. surely all the quotes are basic level trainer planes whether 3 or 4ch ? My impression is he wants an intermediate level trainer.
In fact if OP can already fly the 3ch ... then I would say go for a Skyartec Cessna 182 or similar .......

But I may be missing something in his original post ?

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Old Oct 15, 2012, 09:08 AM
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E flight T28 !!! IMHO it's the best 4ch for new pilots . I got the super cub dsm as my 1st plane and there great !!! Hands down easiest plane to learn with but after 2 weeks I was boarded with it and got the T28 and I'm still loving it . But have since moved on to ordering my 1st balsa like a big dummy lolo . You'll love the T28 by e flight and get the pnp if you have the dx6i . Good luck
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 10:25 AM
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If you want a low cost 4 channel trainer, check out the Ares Gamma 370. It comes as either a 3 channel RTF or a 3 channel Rx-R. Get the Rx-R and install the optional $30.00 aileron wing. You will then have a 4 channel trainer for around $110.00. later on you can get the brushless power setup for an additonal $40.00. Actually the E-Flight T-28 Trojan is a Parkzone model. It is also an excellent first 4 channel plane as are the Flyzone Sensei and E-Flight Apprentice. I recommend the Gamma 370 though because of the value for the price.
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 02:00 PM
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I am always surprised by price quotes and what you get for money ...

I'm a real skinflint cheapo ... and paying over $100 for a trainer ?

My Cessna 182 from Skyartec as a Plug and Fly ... all I did was plug in my Rx and add a 3S battery ... was $60 + shipping. It has 5ch in fact as it has flaps but there's no need to use if you don't want. But ALL are ready linked up with good budget servos ...

I fly EDF's slopers, gliders, biplanes, pushers, literally anything that has wings ! including helis .. the Cessna is my model that is ALWAYS in the car ... and I've handed the Tx over to newcomers to the hobby and they found it a good follow on from their basic model.

But I'm biased as I own one !!

Nigel
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 02:59 PM
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I don't recommend cheap airplanes with no customer support for a newbie. The planes I recommend to beginners are going to have the best CS and parts support. You just don't get that with the Skyartec stuff from Banana Hobby or NitroPlanes, or even HobbyKing for that matter, over here. You may have had a good expericence in Latvia, but here in the states it is another story. As for being a skinflint and el cheapo, that may be you, but not everyone thinks that way. I know I don't. Price is relative, after all.
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 07:27 PM
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E flight T28 !!! IMHO it's the best 4ch for new pilots . I got the super cub dsm as my 1st plane and there great !!! Hands down easiest plane to learn with but after 2 weeks I was boarded with it and got the T28 and I'm still loving it . But have since moved on to ordering my 1st balsa like a big dummy lolo . You'll love the T28 by e flight and get the pnp if you have the dx6i . Good luck
That thing is way too fast for a beginner!!!! I flew one and I was shocked! But its fun LOL.

I'd recommend the eflite apprentice, easy, forgiving and awesome. If you have a dx6i than get the apprentice PNP get a AR600 RX and a Turnigy 3600mah 3s 25c. Also get the hobbypartz Thunder AC6 charger. I have one and I love it.
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 11:12 PM
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chucksolo, where do I buy a Gamma 370 from?
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Old Oct 15, 2012, 11:42 PM
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I don't recommend cheap airplanes with no customer support for a newbie. The planes I recommend to beginners are going to have the best CS and parts support. You just don't get that with the Skyartec stuff from Banana Hobby or NitroPlanes, or even HobbyKing for that matter, over here. You may have had a good expericence in Latvia, but here in the states it is another story. As for being a skinflint and el cheapo, that may be you, but not everyone thinks that way. I know I don't. Price is relative, after all.
The Skinflint / cheapo bit was a joke .. but had a side that I don't understand why some advise models that are overpriced.

As to Skyartec ... they have a good online site and deal direct for all parts ... they can be talked to and respond very well.

http://www.skyartec.com/Product.asp?BigClassName=Spare parts

I know they also have affiliate outlets in various countries ... UK I know and there is most likely a USA as well ...

You may consider price relative - but in fact Skyartec are providing good quality models at very good prices. If you think that paying a higher price guarantees better product - then sadly you are often wrong. That is not how the world works today. Price is often set at what the manufacturer thinks he can screw out of you.

So before knocking such as Skyartec as you have done - a little research would have shown the error.
I have had good back-up from them, it has survived all I throw at it in near 2 years, parts are readily available albeit by post and at budget prices as well.

Nigel
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Old Oct 16, 2012, 02:43 AM
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The park zone T-28, a good 4 channel plane for sure.
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