Originally Posted by bmschulman

I must be missing something. The Bandit is solid white on top, and one of four translucent colors on the bottom. To me, at distance, it looks like a uniform color on the bottom and white on top (with a bit of color trim). I'm flying the blue one, so maybe it just looks darker than other colors.

There are many planes that are the same translucent color on both sides (such as the Addiction), making it difficult to judge orientation. The Bandit isn't one of them.

Try this, take both wings and hold them up to the sun. Turn one upside down and one right side up. Notice how now they both look pretty close to the same color. One looks white and the other looks white but with a colored tint to it. When it gets further out and the color starts to turn to gray scale they both turn pretty close to the same thing depending on the light and orientation. Its not like what the solid colors do. With those they turn white and black. With the translucent they turn white and a slight gray.

Cloudy days seem to have the same effect.

just fly closer in and lower.

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Originally Posted by Josef086

Try this, take both wings and hold them up to the sun. Turn one upside down and one right side up. Notice how now they both look pretty close to the same color. One looks white and the other looks white but with a colored tint to it. When it gets further out and the color starts to turn to gray scale they both turn pretty close to the same thing depending on the light and orientation. Its not like what the solid colors do. With those they turn white and black. With the translucent they turn white and a slight gray.

Cloudy days seem to have the same effect.

I don't think that happens so much with the blue color scheme (which is the darkest color). Maybe the orange and green are brighter and more susceptible to this? This could answer the question posed long ago in this thread about "which is the best color" aside from personal preference.

I like all the colors... no one else in the market offers each plane with so many different colors. It is all personal anyway- each one of us sees colors differently...

Originally Posted by bmschulman

I don't think that happens so much with the blue color scheme (which is the darkest color). Maybe the orange and green are brighter and more susceptible to this? This could answer the question posed long ago in this thread about "which is the best color" aside from personal preference.

I guess thats possible. The green has issues

So I got myself a Bandit 2 days ago, started building immediately.

I put in a Hyperion ZS3020-10 and Hyperion Atlas 45A ESC. I am spinning a 13x6.5 on 3s 2200. Let's see what it will do. But dry testing it, on half throttle it wants to pull up.

I am waiting for the wind to calm down, can't maiden it yet. I hope it'll be cool.

The plane handles the wind like a champ.

Hey Bandit experts. I just have to get one !!! I do have to try and do it on the cheapish. I'm looking at a HK NTM Pro Drive 900 KV http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dproduct=24538

Does anyone have experiance with fitting this motor. I'd like to use it but wonder if the motor box would need modification. Thanks for any help.

amiga2000

Originally Posted by amiga2000

Hey Bandit experts. I just have to get one !!! I do have to try and do it on the cheapish. I'm looking at a HK NTM Pro Drive 900 KV http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dproduct=24538

Does anyone have experiance with fitting this motor. I'd like to use it but wonder if the motor box would need modification. Thanks for any help.

amiga2000

Hi amiga, I have no experience with this motor, but the mount holes are 25x19. So you would need to drill the CF motor mount which is not advisable.
dG

Originally Posted by demonGti

Hi amiga, I have no experience with this motor, but the mount holes are 25x19. So you would need to drill the CF motor mount which is not advisable.
dG

Thanks. It might be wiser then to get the iPA and source alternate servos to keep everything as it should be.

I've got a Scorpion SII-3020-780KV earmarked for mine. I've checked it for fit in the motor box and it's all good. It's also a little heavier than the Thrust 40 (166g vs 140g), which should help with balance, and the lower Kv says probably 4S from the start.

Any motor with a tapered mounting face, 4x25mm mounting, overall 37-37.5mm diameter, 40-45 mm long should fit. I originally had a Hyperion I have as Plan A, but it doesn't taper at the mounting face and fouled all the reinforcement in the front of the motor box.

The IPAs looks a cheaper option than Scorpion.

See post below.

Originally Posted by amiga2000

Hey Bandit experts. I just have to get one !!! I do have to try and do it on the cheapish. I'm looking at a HK NTM Pro Drive 900 KV http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dproduct=24538

Does anyone have experiance with fitting this motor. I'd like to use it but wonder if the motor box would need modification. Thanks for any help.

amiga2000

Originally Posted by demonGti

Hi amiga, I have no experience with this motor, but the mount holes are 25x19. So you would need to drill the CF motor mount which is not advisable.
dG

Originally Posted by amiga2000

Thanks. It might be wiser then to get the iPA and source alternate servos to keep everything as it should be.

I drilled my front plate and also enlarged the shaft hole since I fitted a collar to the front of my motor (not really needed) of choice. I ran around 950w (motrolfly 2820-950 on 4s spinning an APC 13x6.5) for several months before settling on my current setup (same motor 3s APC 14x7 or 15x6) which does 650w. I've not had any issue with cracking or weakness of the motor mount. But in saying that during assembly I thinned some epoxy with acetone and gave the whole motor mount a light coat with a heavy coat around all the joints etc..


The Motrolfly 2820-950 is actually a pretty good option marginally heavier than the Thrust but more power for the same prop and batt config (mainly due to the higher KV), and combined with a Turnigy 60a Plush and some Turnigy Blue batteries it makes for a pretty good cheaper setup. Especially since from the Australian supplier SC Models it's only $60 incl postage, so yes more than the NTM but still way cheaper than the PA Thrust. You do need to open the hole through which you install the motor slightly, but it's not hard.

@luke 352, am I right in understanding that if you took the collar off (which should not be needed in a front mount/ thru firewall installation), you would not need to enlarge the hole in the firewall?

Originally Posted by scirocco

@luke 352, am I right in understanding that if you took the collar off (which should not be needed in a front mount/ thru firewall installation), you would not need to enlarge the hole in the firewall?

Correct, technically you should not need a collar or circlip on a front mount. But the idea still makes me uncomfortable leaving those things off so I just enlarged the hole instead.