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The Mobius 2 ActionCam Support Thread (Key Info in Posts 1-7)!

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This thread is hosted by M1 users, not the camera developer, and is part of a radio controlled model web site in a Forum dedicated to Aerial Photography. As such, the content of this thread is intended to focus on the topic of the Mobius 2 Actioncam (NOT the original Mobius (1) which has it's own thread) and it's operation and capabilities for aerial video purposes.

That said, the Mobius 2 (a.k.a. M2) is unique in it's small size, weight, capabilities, and price point, making it ideal for many other uses to capture action video. There will be persons interested in the M2 for purposes other than aerial video directed here for camera support by various vendors, and you are welcome here for the purpose of helping you with the camera's operation.

Issues with adapting the camera to uses other than aerial video are considered off topic, and should be discussed in other forums or threads, e.g.:Video links posted here should relate to the RC aerial video topic area. Examples of off topic videos are:
  • Car driving recorder videos
  • Biking videos
  • Video of RC cars and boats
  • Routine ground scene videos to show off your new camera (I know you're excited, but...)

    Exceptions: Any video that shows a specific problem with the camera's operation or a solution for those problems are desired and will help others regardless of how they might use their Mobius.
Suggestions for camera feature improvements should be well thought out as having broad appeal, and realistic within the bounds of this camera's uniqueness for size, weight, and price point. Most of these will be firmware related, not physical redesign. The camera developer monitors this thread and has implemented many features from user input. But lets stay realistic. Complaint posts about the M2 not meeting your every need or do what much more expensive cameras can do have no place here.

Finally, this thread is a "self-help" thread! The 6 "info posts" following this one contain much information that can answer many user questions. These info posts will be updated as needed with new information. It is my intent and expectation that thread posters will "do their homework" and access these posts before posting new questions. If you still have questions, the advanced thread search function should be used to help find posts that relate to your issue. This will not only help keep the thread from becoming bloated with redundant questions that have been asked and answered many times, it will also keep the thread more interesting to the target audience.

If this is your first time reading this thread, please read the next 6 posts now to familiarize yourself with this thread's structure and resources.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation!
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M2 ActionCam Vendors and Specs

M2 ActionCam Vendors and Specs

The M2, by the developer of the highly successful original Mobius ActionCam and the #16HD "808-style" keychain camera, is a logical progression to the more capable 1080p-60 fps level of video hardware. The features that made the M1 such a hit, namely small, light, configurable, great video, and low cost have been retained to match the capability of the new hardware. The firmware will take many months to mature and incorporate all the capabilities of the new hardware, but the developer is actively pursuing this goal while watching this thread for user feedback on the camera's functionality..

Verified Vendors

[B]You are advised to only buy your M2 from a developer-verified source. Verified vendors not only sell the real M2 camera, accessories, and some replacement parts, they have pledged a commitment to customer satisfaction, both before and after a sale, and are your first contact if any early problems are found and not caused by user abuse, crash damage, etc. If parts are not listed on their sites, use their web site email contact link to request what you need. Payment via PayPal is usually available. The developer's China eBay seller will usually have the lowest delivered prices. The other re-sellers may offer quicker delivery depending on your location. Prices can vary from one vendor to the other and depends on what is included in different accessory packages. The cost from the China direct seller eBay outlets will be nominally about US$89 with free shipping.

Direct Sellers:
China: eletoponline365;
Re-sellers:
U.S.: BuyMobius.com, a.k.a. novotm (MA); SPYTEC (NY);
More Verified re-sellers will be added soon.

Non-verified sellers may be selling fake imitation cameras at seemingly bargain prices, and you should be wary of buying from them.

NOTE: Both users and vendors are expected to abide by this forum and thread vendor communication protocol.

Memory Cards

Class 10 or UHS-1 memory cards from popular manufacturers should be used for the high data rate recording of this camera. ALL MEMORY CARDS should be formatted using the camera's internal formatting routine for best compatibility!
. If you are uncertain about what kind of memory card to buy, order one from the camera vendor when you place your order.

Case Design



The camera has a modern case design precision molded of rugged high-density plastic to house the circuit board and LiPo cell battery. Three buttons (power, mode, and shutter) are provided to toggle various functions, with 4 colored LEDs for visible feedback on the cameras operation via an internal "light-pipe" to make the LEDs visible on both the top and side of the case where the buttons are located. The bottom of the case has 6 small ventilation slots to allow internal heat to escape. A metal heat sink plate is inside with 4 brass screw studs protruding through the case to accept mounting screws. A brass tripod mount piece is included which attaches with the 4 screws. It also gives added heat dissipation, though it is NOT necessary for cooling with proper mounting of the case.

The basic camera weighs approximately 45 grams (without lens cap) and measures nominally 59mm (case body) and 64mm (at lens protrusion) (L) x 36mm (W) x18mm (H).

The inside of the case top and bottom has precision molded rib structures to accurately position and securely hold the CMOS/lens module. Embedded into the case bottom is the aluminum heat sink plate with 4 brass screw inserts for attaching the tri-pod mounting piece. A clear plastic "light-pipe" insert in the case top is positioned over the 4 circuit board function LEDS to channel the light to the top and side LED view ports.
[IMG]to be added[/IMG]

Circuit Board and Battery

The circuit board has a reset button and easy disconnects for the battery and CMOS ribbon cable. The charging and external communication port is a standard 10 pin mini-USB socket. An over-voltage protection IC on the USB external power input which will disconnect the external power and protect the camera if the voltage is between 5.6V to 28V. Standard microSDHC cards up to 64GB are accepted for recording. Class 10 or UHS-1 cards are recommended. The CMOS imager and DSP chips used in the camera are confidential at this point at the developer's request. The stock 820 mAH battery can power the camera for at least 2 hours of HD recording.
[IMG] to be added[/IMG]

Lens Module

The CMOS imager is on a thin circuit board attached to the back of the lens module with two screws. It's ribbon cable is secured via a clamping socket making it possible to replace just the CMOS imager if necessary. The M2 CMOS imager and ribbon cable are NOT compatible with the original Mobius (M1) CMOS or ribbon cable. The standard lens is a wide angle design with a HFOV of 130 deg. FOV in 1080p mode. The module has an M12 thread and can accept other lenses with matching threads, though 3rd party lenses may or may not have the necessary focal plane diameter or distance from the back of the lens to properly focus and cover the CMOS array to avoid vignetting or cropped corners.
[IMG] to be added[/IMG]

Approximate Weight of Basic Components

Stock camera (with battery & memory card).... 45 gms.
Case with heat sink...................................... 12 gms.
Battery (820 mAH)....................................... 15 gms.
Circuit board............................................. .... 9 gms.
Lens module and ribbon cable......................... 7 gms.
Tripod mounting piece and screws................... 7 gms.
Mounting base plate with screw stud.............. 10 gms.

Mounting Options

The case bottom has 4 M1 screw studs molded into it and anchored in the heat sink inside. These can be used to attach the camera to a flat plate for a mount of your own design. Those studs also accept the stock tri-pod attachment piece (standard 1/4-20 thread) and will mate with a variety of heavy duty mounting accessories. Three of these are a flat surface adhesive pad mount, a bike handlebar mount (accommodates oversize bars), and a lever-actuated suction mount for smooth surfaces such as a car windshield. Each of these specific mounting options use an adjustable articulating ball piece that screws into the base plate, making very minute changes in alignment possible.


The optional helmet mount has both a slightly flexible adhesive pad plus a retaining strap for rugged use. The screw attachment point has only two rotation axes available for aiming the camera.


Another option is a mini-tripod bolt mount for use as a web cam or other use on any level surface.


User Toggled Functions

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Camera Configuration and Firmware Information

It is strongly recommended that users with Windows PCs always use the mSetup graphical user interface (GUI) program to change camera settings and update firmware.

This post by Isoprop has a link to download his free Windows GUI (mSetup.exe) for easy configuration of the M2 settings, and also his M2 User Manual.

This post by Thomas has links to his Mobius 2 Android configuration application.

New firmware and user settings can be loaded into the camera manually as a last resort (see below), but it requires specific file editing and handling procedures as well as multiple button press sequences on the camera. It is easy for user errors to cause these updates to fail! Also, there are numerous camera settings, some of which conflict with each other if both are toggled on at the same time. The GUI program will not permit these conflicting settings to be set so will eliminate all of these user error possibilities, so please do yourself a favor and use the GUI if available for your computer or handheld device.


Optional Manual User Configuration Setting Procedure

If a GUI tool is not available for your computer or you would rather just edit the configuration text file manually, it's easy to do, just follow these steps exactly:

1. Download the camera's configuration file to the flash card in the camera (HOLD DOWN MODE BUTTON, THEN ALSO HOLD DOWN POWER BUTTON UNTIL THE RED LED BLINKS 3 TIMES THEN TURNS OFF).

2. Turn the camera on, connect it to your PC, and access the camera root directory when it goes into the "removable disk mode". You should see three system folders on the card MOVIE, VIDEO, Syscfg, and also the camera configuration file, syscfg2.txt. Do not confuse this with the syscfg folder which is explained below in the Firmware section.

3. Open the "syscfg2.txt" config text file with a simple (ASCII) text editor (e.g. the familiar "Notepad" text editor for Windows users). The file will look similar to this:
Date format=[2];set date format,0:YYYY/MM/DD, 1:DD/MM/YYYY, 2:MM/DD/YYYY
/**Note: "Date time" must be in accordance with the date format specified otherwise unable to set the date**/
Date time=[07/21/2016-17:56:14];date time setting,yyyy/mm/dd-hh:mm:ss,dd/mm/yyyy-hh:mm:ss, mm/dd/yyyy-hh:mm:ss
Modify datetime=[0];date time setting comfirm,0:not set 1: modify

Default Mode=[0];set power-on default mode,0:Video Mode 1, 1:Video Mode 2, 2:Photo Mode

VIDEO MODE 1
Movie Resolution=[0];0:1080p,1:720p,2:wvga
Movie Frame Rate=[1];0:120fps(only for 720p and wvga),1:60fps,2:30fps,3:WDR30fps(only for 1080p)
Movie Sound=[2];set movie sound,0:Mute,1:Low,2:Medium,3:High
Movie Cycle time=[2];movie cycle time,0:3 minutes,1:5 minutes,2:10 minutes,3:20 minutes
Movie Loop Recording=[0];set loop recording on or off, 0:off, 1:on
Movie Rotate=[0];set movie rotate,0:No,1:Inverted,2:90 degrees Right,3:90 degrees Left
Movie Time stamp=[1];set date/time stamp on or off,0:off,1:on
Movie quality=[3];set movie quality,0:Highest,1:Higher,2:High,3:Standard,4:Low,5:Lower,6:Lowest
Movie Codec=[1];set video codec,0:H265 HEVC,1:H264 AVC

VIDEO MODE 2
Movie Resolution=[1];0:1080p,1:720p,2:wvga
Movie Frame Rate=[0];0:120fps(only for 720p and wvga),1:60fps,2:30fps,3:WDR30fps(only for 1080p)
Movie Sound=[2];set movie sound,0:Mute,1:Low,2:Medium,3:High
Movie Cycle time=[2];movie cycle time,0:3 minutes,1:5 minutes,2:10 minutes,3:20 minutes
Movie Loop Recording=[0];set loop recording on or off, 0:off, 1:on
Movie Rotate=[0];set movie rotate,0:No,1:Inverted,2:90 degrees Right,3:90 degrees Left
Movie Time stamp=[1];set date/time stamp on or off,0:off,1:on
Movie quality=[3];set movie quality,0:Highest,1:Higher,2:High,3:Standard,4:Low,5:Lower,6:Lowest
Movie Codec=[1];set video codec,0:H265 HEVC,1:H264 AVC

PHOTO MODE
Photo Mode Capture Size=[0];set photo size,0:1920x1080,1:1280x720,2:848x480
Photo Rotate=[0];set Photo rotate,0:No,1:Inverted,2:90 degrees Right,3:90 degrees Left
Photo Time stamp=[1];set date/time stamp on or off,0:off,1:on
Set Time Lapse Shooting=[0];0:off,1:0.25s,2:0.5s,3:1s,4:2s,5:5s,6:10s,7:30s,8:60s

System Setting
Auto Power off=[1];set system auto power off time when system pending,0:off,1:30 seconds,2:1 minutes,3:2 minutes
Power off=[1];set system power off time,0:delay,1:fast
Power on=[1];set system power on time,0:delay,1:fast
Auto Record with External Power=[0];set connect with power to start video recording automatically,0:off,1:on
One Power Button to Auto Record=[0];set press power key to start video recording automatically,0:off,1:on
LED=[1];set LED flicker when recording,0:off,1:on
Charge from USB Host=[0];when connecting with USB host, charge camera or not,0:on,1:off
Light frequency=[1];set light source frequency,0:50 HZ,1:60 HZ
TV out=[0];set TV out,0:NTSC,1:PAL

kernel version:1.0.6
rootfs version:1.09
software version: 1.36
Note: Function key values used by the camera are shown bolded in the square brackets. Functions shown may vary with firmware updates, but manual editing is similar.
4. Replace any number(s) in the square brackets with any valid alternate setting number, shown highlighted to the right of each function. At the bottom the version numbers of three important system files are identified. which can be important when manually updating the FW (more on that below).
NOTE: Except for certain functions which cannot co-exist, invalid numbers or other characters in the square brackets has not shown to cause serious problems, but the camera appears to ignore them or switch to default values.
5. Save the revised file back to the memory card root directory, but do not change the file name.

6. Upload the revised configuration back into the camera using the same key-press sequence used to download the configuration. The red LED will turn on, then blink while the config file is loading. Keep both camera pressed down during this process.

7. When the LED turns off, you're done! The new configuration will be in the camera and the config file will be automatically deleted from the flash card. You may check the flash card to confirm this if you wish.


Firmware Firmware updates will contain bug fixes, new or improved features, or both. You are advised to always update the firmware if you want your Mobius to give you all it can. You are strongly advise to ALWAYS use the GUI tool for all camera firmware changes (see above). The GUI will determine if your camera firmware is out of date and download the latest firmware if you agree choose for you to install.

The firmware development and refinement is a continuing process, and the most recent OFFICIALLY RELEASED version will be linked at the bottom of this post. I keep old, obsolete firmware in case anyone needs a copy (PM me with your email address).

The M2 FW uses a LINUX OS, with three files necessary for proper operation, named:
  1. kernel - the Linux core code
  2. rootfs - Linux OS support files
  3. TLC.S001.MB00100000 - the FW function code

The FW file will always be needed for updates, but the other two files will only be changed infrequently. All three files, however, will be included in every new FW download to be sure the camera has the necessary code to function. A manual download will retrieve a zipped archive file named "M2 APP FW X.YY.zip", where "X.YY" will be the FW number. Unzipping the archive will produce three separate folders containing the above three system files, with the folders named to clearly indicate what they contain, e.g.:
  1. M2 kernel VA.BB - where "A.BB" is the kernel version number, with the file inside ALWAYS just named "kernel"
  2. M2 rootfs VC.DD - where "C.DD is the rootfs version number, with the file inside ALWAYS just named "rootfs"
  3. M2 FW VX.YY - where "X.YY" is the version of the FW file inside, which is ALWAYS named "TLC.S001.MB00100000".
NOTE: The names of the files must not be changed or the camera will not be able to load them, so it's necessary to keep each file in it's own folder to identify its version number.


Optional Manual Firmware Update Procedure

The following procedure is for manually updating your camera firmware. It is not necessary to do this if you can use the Windows GUI configuration tool (see above). It will determine if your camera firmware is out of date, download the latest firmware if you agree, and install it for you, taking all the potential for user error out of it. You are strongly advised to ALWAYS use the mSetup GUI tool for all camera firmware changes.

The updated FW file (TLC.S001.MB00100000) will always need to be loaded. The kernel and rootfs file required by the FW may already be in your camera and would not need to be loaded again. It is safe to reload them, but it will increase the updating time, especially the rootfs file which is quite large.[/B] You can easily check to see which versions of the three system files are in the camera by two different ways. The first was given above where extracting the configuration text file manually to change settings is explained. The kernel, rootfs, and FW (called "software" in that file) are clearly shown at the end of the configuration file. A second way is to simply turn on the camera on and open the "syscfg" folder in the memory card root directory. This folder is created every time the camera is booted. In there is a file named "DvConfig.bin, which is a hex dump of the configuration from the camera memory. Opening that with a simple text editor will show something like this:
1.36 1.09 1.0.6 2016/07/22-11:27:47
. The first three sets of numbers are the FW, rootfs, and kernel versions, respectively. If the rootfs or kernel file versions from either of these methods match the same version numbers for those files in the FW download archive, you do NOT need to load in those files, and only the newly downloaded FW file (TLC.S001.MB00100000) needs to be copied to the memory card for uploading into the camera.

ALERT:
  • READ THE UPDATING INSTRUCTIONS FULLY BEFORE STARTING
  • DO NOT BEGIN UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND EACH STEP
  • DO NOT SKIP ANY STEPS
1. [B]Download the "M2 APP FW x.yy.zip" firmware archive file and un-zip it. Copy the necessary system files(see above) from their identifying folders to the camera's memory card root directory. This can be done with the card in the camera connected to the computer as a Removable Drive, or externally in a card reader. But do NOT rename the file. If you do, the camera will not install it!

2. Disconnect the camera from the PC, but make sure the camera battery is well charged, or connect an external USB two-wire (no data connections) USB power source to make sure the camera does not lose power during the upload.. Don't worry, a failure to complete uploading of the system files cannot brick the camera since the boot loader file is not affected by this process. You can always do another upload by repeating this process. If you have an external USB power source connected, the GREEN LED charging indicator may be lit, which is OK. It doesn't impact the upload process, but be sure the camera is turned off before starting.

3. Insert the flash card containing the new firmware file into the camera (if not already in the camera).

4. Press the Power button briefly and the RED LED will begin blinking. RELEASE THE POWER BUTTON AS SOON AS LED FLASHING BEGINS! If you keep pressing it longer, you may turn off the camera before the update process is done. DO NOT PRESS ANY BUTTONS WHILE THE INSTALLATION IS IN PROGRESS . The upload can take as little as about 10 seconds if only the FW file is being loaded, or as long as 2:15 minutes if all three files are being loaded!

5. To confirm the system files are being uploaded, the RED LED will continue to blink at different rates with possible off periods of a couple seconds during the upload process.

6. When the FW installation is complete, the RED LED will turn off and the camera will shut down after deleting the system files from the memory card. The process is pretty fool proof, if you follow the instructions explicitly, take your time, do not press any camera buttons, and wait for at least 5 seconds with no LED activity before trying to turn on the camera.

7. You're done! Turn on the camera... the RED LED will stay solid for about 5-6 seconds the first time it is booted after an update while it reconfigures the card folders. You should check that the system files were deleted from the card, and I recommend also checking the DvConfigs.bin file in the syscfg folder to confirm the version numbers of the installed system files are correct.


Firmware Download Site

Click on this link to download the latest FW (V1.36 and support files).
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Mobius2 Windows Setup program and Manual

I will update this post and the following post as soon as I'm back from my vacation.

In the meanwhile, the Mobius2 (M2) Manual and the Mobius2 Windows setup program (mSetup) may be downloaded from the following site:
http://mytempfiles.info/mobius2/.

Please note the program is currently available ONLY in English. mSetup is backward compatible to all Mobius (M1) firmware versions and all the #16 808 cameras that support USB communication.

Copy this program to a separate folder if you wish to use previous versions of mSetup which support foreign language resources. This is a temporary measure.
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Android application

Android application Mobius ActionCam now supports also Mobius 2.
You can change configuration and manage files in the camera. Live video is not supported by the camera at the moment.

If you have any questions, please look at this thread.
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