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Old Apr 11, 2014, 08:03 AM
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John Haynes On-line Store Closed.

For those who are interested, I got this message from John:

"The shop has finally closed due to old age and a Family member having cancer and Hils and I are the only support available . Consequently we will be away from the office for long periods.

However our retailers can supply any item you need until things run out."

Regards

John
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Old Apr 11, 2014, 09:24 AM
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Shame, that... on multiple levels...
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Old Apr 11, 2014, 06:09 PM
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Sad day for anyone building Warships.
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Old Apr 11, 2014, 09:20 PM
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Glad I got all my 1:125 fittings from him last year. You couldn't even find them anywhere else. His work is like jewelry.

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Old Apr 12, 2014, 10:22 AM
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That is very sad. Very sad for the family.....I hope things work out well.
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Old Apr 12, 2014, 12:59 PM
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That is very sad. Very sad for the family.....I hope things work out well.
yes indeed, I endorse your sentiments entirely.........although I have never used John's fittings I have seen them and they are magnificent.....I do hope you have a happy outcome to the illness in the family.
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Old Apr 22, 2015, 07:20 AM
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Why can't the product live on? After some recent successes like WEM being bought by Tom's Modelworks, this sort of thing is confounding.

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Old Apr 22, 2015, 07:59 AM
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It could, but John would need to make it happen. Most of his parts are cast white metal or resin, I believe with the molds at commercial casters. The white metal molds are typically vulcanized rubber 9 inch "pies", for center-pour centrifugal casting, and may have lots of different parts on each one... perhaps enough to make all the parts needed for a particular ship (I'm guessing here). So you'd get a fixed ratio of parts with each pour.

He also has PE frets, with HIS name etched on them... so he'd have to release all these molds and PE art to someone else to manage, and hopefully not muck up his name.
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Old Apr 22, 2015, 10:27 AM
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It is sad that companies such as John Haynes fittings have to pull the plug on operations for whatever reason, but it is a matter of fact that a great number of products offered to the modeling public are created and produced by single person companies, striving to enhance the modeling world with their products and perhaps even earn a living.

As for someone or company to carry on with the product line, it very rarely happens due to the commitment needed to carry on in the manner that John held as standard. This also holds true for long time stalwarts of the modeling industry (Sterling Models and POLKS Hobbies) who decided it was time to hand off the baton and offer their company for sale, only to be bought and then parted out for a quick profit or simply closing their doors and ending the product line.

With the ever increasing influx of new, in the box, ready to run, models on the shelves of the few, truly hobby oriented hobby shops, being made available, and the lack of enthusiasm for creating and building becoming the norm, the trend of entrepreneurs such as John closing and leaving a void will no doubt be increasing.
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Old Apr 22, 2015, 02:02 PM
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Well, the RTR 'breed' has only made real strides in North America. Europe, the UK and possibly other places still have a large traditional model boating community that builds from plans or kits. At least I think so.

I only recently (a year or two ago for me is recent) learned about John Haynes products/fittings and the oddball 1/128 scale fittings he offered (a boon to the Lindberg Blue Devil sadomasochist builder), among others, so it a remorseful thing to learn.
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All I can say is that another line going down the tubes is saddening. Wonder if I'll be the next one---.
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Old Apr 22, 2015, 07:33 PM
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All I can say is that another line going down the tubes is saddening. Wonder if I'll be the next one---.
There's always immortality.
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Old Apr 24, 2015, 03:12 PM
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Perhaps, but that doesn't produce model boats---.
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Old Apr 25, 2015, 06:37 AM
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No, I mean "family business". Your outfit could continue on, under an heir....
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DER KAPTAIN- I think that the day comes that you decide to hang it up and retire, you will have no problem handing off your line of products to Don at Loyalhanna. Of course what will happen with the line and the availability will be out of your control.

You must remember that anyone who is not a self-employed manufacturer and having no one on the payroll, will fall under the regulations of the EPA and guide lines of OSHA. This is why fiberglass model manufacturing in the USA has gone back to a cottage industry or is imported from abroad.
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