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Old Jan 30, 2015, 05:49 PM
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No Timer experimental E power Contest Series

AMA's Calender of events has the below listing to our LOFT clubs May 17, 2015 " Winch in the Nose" contest. To clarify the listing text, launch limiters will be set at 200m or 30 seconds. Pilots will not be accompanied by helpers or TIMERS. One group launch per round unless group size becomes restrictive. ... or maybe not. Entry is free to club members, join at the contest, just $15.00 for the year. Non member entry fee is $3.00. Plans are for a year end trophy at the end of this five contest series in October. We may have two size classes, depends on interest in this contest concept. Landing points will be based on an LSF level l and level ll landing tape, in or out points. Still debating landing point values. Task time will likely be set at 10 minutes.

Contest open to ARF's and Woodys, all contestant ages combined.


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5/17/2015 -- Ft Wayne, IN (A) LOFT ALES. Site: Loft Field. Ray Hayes CD ,
Email: skybench@comcast.net. 15/518. ALES 30 sec motor run or zoom launch height with special scoring system eliminates timers. Email Ray for details. Sponsor: LEAGUE OF FLIGHT BY THERMAL LOFT
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Old Jan 30, 2015, 07:08 PM
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So what's the task?
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Old Feb 04, 2015, 09:53 AM
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The purpose of this type of event is an effort to promote membership in the LOFT club. I know from the local hobby shops that sales of the foam electric powered sailplane have been good. I also know, that the majority of RC Sailplane flyers don't participate in "Contests" . Hopefully, this format will produce a less stressful group activity that will be fun to participate in for all members.

Removing the landing count down I know will reduce the tension for newer pilots, but will still require pilot skill to land on the tape. Using an LSF landing tape that is measured for Level 1 and 2 is a way of introducing new pilots to the LSF skill program and reduce the need for hard landings.

The event task will be controlled by a series of four horns, first, start of task, second, end of 10 second launch window, third, end of task time, fourth, end of 60 second landing window.

Scoring will award all the pilots that accomplished the task time with a point for each number of pilots in the round, or just a point value of 3. Pilots that didn't make the task time would receive a point value of 1. This could be changed in several ways, it is new, live and learn.

Landing points could be 1 point for level 1 and 2 for level 2,

Tied scores could have a fly off, but on the first event we run, I'll set up the task times that will help eliminate tied scores. Example, first round is five minutes and every following round would increase by three minutes. This task concept is the "ladder" , created about 15 years ago by Bob Johnson of Wisconsin.

Another way to avoid tied scores would be changing the Altitude on the Limiters from starting the first round with 200M and as the Ladder task time goes up, the height limit would come down.

Don't be afraid to Experiment ..

I'm pretty confident this format will allow lots of time for lots of rounds. Just what most pilots want to do in a group activity.

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Old Feb 04, 2015, 12:14 PM
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Great idea Ray, I would like to propose something similar in our club.

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Old Feb 04, 2015, 12:37 PM
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Thanks Randy, I just added some ideas to the above concerning how to manage away from tied scores. About 20 years ago, LOFT was experimental with their club contests, the CD could name any task for his event. One CD set a spotter about 4000 feet away and he was the turn point for a goal and return club contest. Nothing but fun ...

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Old Feb 06, 2015, 06:17 PM
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So the task times will vary?? And the pilots won't have timers??
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