HobbyKing.com New Products Flash Sale
Reply
Thread Tools
Old Sep 11, 2013, 07:39 AM
Registered User
Joined Apr 2013
28 Posts
Question
Are LiPo and LiCoO2 same technology?

As per subject.
I am a little confused about this topic.
jumpjack is online now Find More Posts by jumpjack
Reply With Quote
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Old Sep 11, 2013, 11:25 AM
Registered User
United States, OR, Canby
Joined Aug 2011
2,445 Posts
Lithium-ion polymer.

Lithium cobalt oxide.

I would say no.
600Bob is online now Find More Posts by 600Bob
Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2013, 11:52 AM
Registered User
flydiver's Avatar
United States, WA, Seattle
Joined Jan 2007
5,356 Posts
There are several lithium technologies. Some are similar but they are not the same.
Read up: Battery University
flydiver is offline Find More Posts by flydiver
Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2013, 01:24 PM
Registered User
Joined Apr 2013
28 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 600Bob View Post
Lithium-ion polymer.

Lithium cobalt oxide.

I would say no.
But Lithium-Cobalt-Oxide are based on lithium ions and they (as other lithium batteries) use a polymer as electrolite!
BatteryUniversity, as dozens of others site, does not help.
Forums say both "yes" and "no".
jumpjack is online now Find More Posts by jumpjack
Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2013, 02:42 PM
Registered User
United States, OR, Canby
Joined Aug 2011
2,445 Posts
Do you have a link to a site that sells LiCoO2 batteries?
600Bob is online now Find More Posts by 600Bob
Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2013, 03:40 PM
Space Coast USA
hoppy's Avatar
Space Coast
Joined Oct 2000
21,186 Posts
LiPo and LiCoO2 are the same technology

Both Li-ion and Li-ion Polymer (LiPo) batteries use LiCoO2 in them.

The A123 or LiFe packs use LiFePO4 in them instead of LiCoO2.

Site that sells them? What are you looking for in terms of voltages and mah capacity and end use?
hoppy is offline Find More Posts by hoppy
Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2013, 04:04 PM
Registered User
Joined Apr 2013
28 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jumpjack View Post
Forums say both "yes" and "no".

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppy View Post
LiPo and LiCoO2 are the same technology
Quote:
Originally Posted by 600Bob View Post
Lithium-ion polymer.

Lithium cobalt oxide.

I would say no.
Damn!!
jumpjack is online now Find More Posts by jumpjack
Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2013, 04:54 PM
Space Coast USA
hoppy's Avatar
Space Coast
Joined Oct 2000
21,186 Posts
You should do some research to convince yourself.
See this thread, go to post #5 and read the articles I have posted on LiPo/LiIon batteries..

Do you know what MSDS's are?
Find a LiPo battery and look at the MSDS.
See what's in it. I'll save you the trouble, it's LiCoO2
hoppy is offline Find More Posts by hoppy
Last edited by hoppy; Sep 11, 2013 at 05:06 PM.
Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2013, 05:17 PM
Registered User
Joined Apr 2013
28 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppy View Post
You should do some research to convince yourself.
See this thread, go to post #5 and read the articles I have posted on LiPo/LiIon batteries..
This is not promising...
Quote:
In general any charger that can charge lithium ion can charge lithium polymer, assuming that the cell count is correct.
"In general"?? So they're not the same?!?


Quote:
Do you know what MSDS's are?
Find a LiPo battery and look at the MSDS.
See what's in it. I'll save you the trouble, it's LiCoO2
Yes, I think it's where I read about chemicals contained in lithium batteries. :-)
Polymers EVERYWHERE!!
If I remember correctly we have polymer electrolyte even in LiFePO4...

My Jun-si battery logger cellLog8s has two different settings for LiPO and LiLo voltage alarms. Yes, LiLo with "L" capital letter... Maybe they got confused and li-io(n) became li-lo(n)? (I think display is too small to show the final N).
Actually, could you say that these two letters are different?!? "I" and "l". Damed font! They're a capital "i" and a small "L", but they look identical!
jumpjack is online now Find More Posts by jumpjack
Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2013, 07:21 PM
Space Coast USA
hoppy's Avatar
Space Coast
Joined Oct 2000
21,186 Posts
Good luck on your quest.
hoppy is offline Find More Posts by hoppy
Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2013, 07:39 PM
4.2V of pure Kraut power
bzfrank's Avatar
Germany
Joined Nov 2006
462 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jumpjack View Post
As per subject.
I am a little confused about this topic.
Lipo = Lithium Polymer Battery

LiCoO2 = Lithium cobalt oxide, one of the Lithium-metal oxides currently used as the Cathode of a Lithium Battery. There are others such Li-metal oxides (LiNiO2, LiMnO3, LiMn2O3, ...) that can be used as cathode material in a Lipo, however LiCoO2 is todays choice in most cases because of its ability to provide high currents. It is however inherently unsafe and prone to thermal instability (Thermal Runaway - ask Boing..)
bzfrank is offline Find More Posts by bzfrank
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Question Are these VRX the same thing? serrated FPV Talk 4 Mar 15, 2013 01:25 AM
Discussion Are the Hobbyking 12A Blueseries same as Mystery? flyboy320 Multirotor Electronics 3 Jan 26, 2013 04:09 PM
Help! The recorded values ​​are not the same from ELogger beds in reality goryc Eagle Tree Systems 0 Jan 07, 2013 05:29 AM
Question LiPo 3650 and 3700, are these the same cells ? straks Batteries and Chargers 1 Feb 17, 2006 03:12 AM
All LiPos are the same,.They do not need a break in. Save money by ____________. everydayflyer Batteries and Chargers 3 Aug 29, 2005 12:19 PM