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Old Feb 24, 2013, 01:05 PM
This ain't my first rodeo...
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It was awesome! It started off as a foamy obstacle course and then turned into MQX Red Bull races!

The poor crack yak light was slutted out to anyone that wanted to try and peel the wings off it. Now she knows how your "doorknob" feels Joe!
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Old Feb 24, 2013, 11:03 PM
Got the Slickness
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My wife's sister is a corporate pilot and we got to fly with her in one of her new planes, a Citation Encore. It was like right out of James Bond and Goldfinger.

My 8 year old son got to fly co-pilot and loved it!

Before leaving in the Encore though, my wife's sister just got back with the other plane, a Twin Commander, which we put away in the hanger.

What a day for my son!
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 12:05 AM
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That's awesome and those planes are just gorgeous! I'm glad that you and your son were able to enjoy that experience together!
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 12:24 AM
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Wow! You've got a cool wife's sister! Beautiful plane. Where did you fly?
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 12:26 AM
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The Twin Commander is a amazing airplane. I saw Bob Hover at the Reno air races put it through it paces many times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...yM2PJcFM#t=39s

Bob Hoover -- Engine-out Aerobatics! (8 min 0 sec)
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 12:30 AM
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wow, thats pretty awesome!
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 01:08 AM
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That was so sweet. I have flown a couple twins, but that was like Superman still wearing his horn rim glasses.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 02:42 AM
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I could imagine a young Bob Hoover at an interview in 1950s-60s:

"Mr. Hoover! You just performed a knife edge pass in an F-86 at mach 1.15 one foot off the deck after coming out of a 5000 foot dive!"

"Yaw well, it won't do that too much, ya just need a lot more rudder than usual."
"Actually, now that you mention it, it was an eight point roll."

"Thanks Mr. Hoover!"

So cool.

Rare!! BOB HOOVER FLY F86 full video (7 min 58 sec)


One wheel touch and go even back then.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 08:30 AM
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Wow! You've got a cool wife's sister! Beautiful plane. Where did you fly?
Thanks guys.

We got the chance to ride with her from Renton to Tacoma Narrows Airport as she was taking it over for routine maintenance. Pretty quick flight, even at approx. one third its top speed at 220mph..... we did get to fly-low though, at about 1500 feet.

I flew with her in the Commander previously from Portland to Renton when she picked it up from maintenance in the past.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 08:53 AM
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The Twin Commander is a amazing airplane. I saw Bob Hover at the Reno air races put it through it paces many times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...yM2PJcFM#t=39s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7R7j...tailpage#t=11s
Thanks Steve .... that is the coolest! I shared it with Lisa's sister.

She has been flying the Commander for about 15 years and I think she is still a licensed trainer.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 12:23 PM
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How many of you guys are running your ganged servos like this?

SWB Rudder Servo Trays (4 min 46 sec)


Just curious ... a question came up in robotics and some are saying the double servos are a terrible way to operate.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 12:55 PM
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The Twin Commander is a amazing airplane. I saw Bob Hover at the Reno air races put it through it paces many times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7R7j...tailpage#t=11s
DUDE! That was awesome Bob is a bad ass! Thanks for posting that one Steve.

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How many of you guys are running your ganged servos like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fDyULSO8KU

Just curious ... a question came up in robotics and some are saying the double servos are a terrible way to operate.
Flarpy has that SWB pulley setup in "old Betty" and I have a hard linked ganged servo setup in my Pilot Edge. I'm new to the big planes so I don't know much about it but I think if you set ganged servos up properly and pay attention to the amp load of each servo your fine. I know most if not all GS planes have ganged rudder servos and multiple servos on each ailerons.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 01:02 PM
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Cops, Cessnas and a little proximity, Flown with Dragonlik (3 min 5 sec)
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 01:32 PM
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How many of you guys are running your ganged servos like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fDyULSO8KU

Just curious ... a question came up in robotics and some are saying the double servos are a terrible way to operate.
While I see a definite benefit for the SWB system, I've always used hard linked servo's.

Back in the day when a person would need to use three or 4 lower torque servo's (not alot of choices back in the day for ultra high torque servos), the swb tray was a fantastic option to use. The odds of one of 4 servo's locking up was higher than a two servo option

Now, you really only need two high torque servo's of 400+ oz for modern 35-40% airfraft when using pull pull. Less servo's (chances) to burn one out.

For me, I hard link. I also make sure that both servo's are exactly the same model, both are centered mechanically as well as electronically within the radio, and that all links are identical in length using a ball link creator tool that Heli guys use to set their links up.

Additionally, I use the Fromeco QCM meter to measure amp loads when setting up all multi servo surfaces, and then adjust using the subtrim and differential where needed.

Is there a chance of one servo burning and locking up..sure...but if setup properly, the odds are subject to the MTBF of the servo itself...imho

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Old Feb 25, 2013, 04:31 PM
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Yeah Mike, I'm with Cry on that. As long as the servos are dialed in electronically so they're not fighting each other the solid linkage is fine by me.
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