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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:30 AM
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So, once again, you spew a bunch of disjointed posts, attempt to badmouth just about every group who has a different opinion, fail to support any of your claims with data, and leave.......
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:33 AM
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No, I think the issue is simple and it looks like you're obfuscating by daftness...again, it's cute at first...gets old after about the 214319184n;rwe post
Once again, hyperbole.



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I'm still here and I've cited my positions with easily sourced or sources themselves.
No, you have not. You claim something in Miller and Heller, but refuse to cite the passages that support your claims. You try to argue that your belief that police have a duty to protect, is relevant but the SCOTUS opinion that differs from yours, isn't. You go around in circles with disconnected claims that aren't supported by you, and when confronted, you move to another disconnected claim, which you also abandon when confronted.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:34 AM
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Problem is the AR15 is in common use by both civilians and LEO's
Good, you do understand how opaque that is right?

it gives the POTUS a lot of room...

Common use where?

All over?

in a region ..

in a city block?

Look at US V Miller, not allowing the gangsters to have sawed off shut guns..

and Tommy guns were common use also back in the day....common use amongst gangsters..

Looks like the AR-15 is common use amongst mass murders now...

see...

DC V Heller didn't address US V Miller........but to establish it.

regulation is good no?

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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:34 AM
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Red herring noted...

He has the power under US V Miller which Scalia upheld in DC V Heller and even established it... with "the like" which protects any sitting POTUS because of it's utter drivel in-specificity.



I mentioned Scalias mutterings were drivel not US V Miller which I like...which cons can't AND WONT (cause they're punks) attack which is the real center on what they can't own and why they can't based on the POTUS will to enforce or some other crap.

You can't own a working howitzer...or a grenade unless it's registered etc...common sense stuff.



That the state can REGULATE the guns too...meaning if Obama wanted to just declare the AR-15 in the same category as a grenade etc he could...don't take it from the nutters just make sure they register it and show a reg tag on the device.

Simple, this would in action ban high power weapons for the avg citizen
I got news for you. Obama is all talk when it comes to gun control. If he wanted to start banning guns he could have banned imports of all guns and ammo with EO but didn't.....
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:35 AM
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DC V Heller didn't address US V Miller........but to establish it.
Cite the relevant passages, and lets actually discuss that specific. You do keep bringing it up, lets review it.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:36 AM
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Looks like the AR-15 is common use amongst mass murders now...

tia
No, it isn't. In fact, it is uncommon for that use.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:42 AM
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No, it isn't. In fact, it is uncommon for that use.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:44 AM
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I got news for you. Obama is all talk when it comes to gun control. If he wanted to start banning guns he could have banned imports of all guns and ammo with EO but didn't.....
That would be against the 2a...actually

I heard something the NRA is saying that actually makes some sense (broke clock and all, don't get all happy and ish)

Jus enforce the laws that are on the books now...

The last admin de-enforced the laws...the last admin was ran by conservatives and you know how much they hate Americas government
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No, it isn't. In fact, it is uncommon for that use.
Not according to US V Miller..

The Valentine day massacre only happened once...Tommy Guns not "banned" but regulated along the lines of the grenade.

simple no?

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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:47 AM
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Cite the relevant passages, and lets actually discuss that specific. You do keep bringing it up, lets review it.
I've already posted the relevant parts, I'm not into word counts...the rest can be easily found
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:54 AM
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Not according to US V Miller..
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Huh? What does US v Miller have to do with AR15's? You really aren't making sense.

The facts are clear. AR-15's are not typically used in the mass murder crimes.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:55 AM
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I've already posted the relevant parts, I'm not into word counts...the rest can be easily found
No, you have not cited relevant passages from Miller or Heller. Do you need me to link the Heller pdf again for you, and find and link the Miller pdf for you also? Or can you find them and cite the passages yourself?

copying inaccurate bits from wikipedia, isn't 'citing.'

You don't need to copy-paste the entire documents, or even large portions. It would be more than sufficient if you were to reference a page and paragraph of the relevant pdf so that others can check the actual text you think supports your claims.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:58 AM
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Huh? What does US v Miller have to do with AR15's? You really aren't making sense...
- Tommy Guns regulated cause gangsters used them in a massacre ONCE

- AR-15 CAN BE...CAN BE regulated cause they've been used in massacres MORE than once

According to Miller V US the number of times a weapon has to be used in a mass murder is left up to interpretation before it gets regulated which makes sense
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:59 AM
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No, you have not cited relevant passages from Miller or Heller. Do you need me to link the Heller pdf again for you, and find and link the Miller pdf for you also? Or can you find them and cite the passages yourself?
I did upthread..

This is wear down, I'm done playin that...gets old quick

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...copying inaccurate bits from wikipedia, isn't 'citing.'
Wikipedia doesn't have the citings?!?!!?!?!!?!?!

You done this before?

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Old Jan 19, 2013, 01:00 AM
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Dude, it shouldn't be this easy to lose you...

- Tommy Guns regulated cause gangsters used them in a massacre ONCE

- AR-15 CAN BE...CAN BE regulated cause they've been used in massacres MORE than once

According to Miller V US the number of times a weapon has to be used in a mass murder is left up to interpretation before it gets regulated which makes sense
You lost track of the thread. We were speaking of your claim that AR-15s are used in massacres now.


If you think Miller says that, cite the passage so the rest of us can learn of it.
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